Highway Patrol Option Post VF, FG

[blk6t]

Just seen this on car advice, we know Dubai has some of the best Police cars in the world, this video confirms it...

http://www.caradvice.com.au/336109/d...ideo-campaign/

Maybe NSW HWP will acquire similar cars once VF SS's and XR6 Turbo's are gone...

[Sioso]

Volvo has already put there hand up.
Not much to choose from when you consider 4 doors, performance and a decent price - Chrysler SRT-8?????????

[Raptor]

Yeah, they'll be stuck with imports like this one maybe, poor buggers.

[timeout]

They would have to be looking at options now against a certain criteria, im sure they will keep buying commodores once the fords are done, until the commodores are done?

SRT 8 core edition?
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/det...17232480/?Cr=4 57,000 bit dear, im sure they could get a discount

Golf GTI 45,990 ish?
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/deta...17091303/?Cr=3

new WRX 50k ish?
No new ones listed yet?

liberty turbo 50K?
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/deta...16323057/?Cr=3

Holden (Opel) insignia? TT V6 2.8 AWD??
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/de...17082827/?Cr=0 50 - 55k estimate???

New Focus RS? 50k??

BMW M1 65K?
http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/deta...17119079/?Cr=0

Audi A4 Turbo 60K
http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?q=%28%28%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new %20cars%20in%20stock%5D|SiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new% 20cars%20available%5D%29|SiloType%3D%5BDemo%20and% 20near%20new%20cars%5D%29%26Induction%3D%5BTurbo%2 0Intercooled%5D%29%26%28Make%3D%5BAudi%5D{%26**Mod el%3D%5BA4%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BCarsales%5D%29& sortby=~Price&limit=12&cpw=1



There is probably no 1:1 gap filler ?


One option would be for all Police forces to agree on a "Police Car" standard or standards and go down the path the US have perhaps??? with things like the Taurus or Caprice PPV (but that dies too with Holden right?)

[timeout]

Raptor:

Things like the Dodge (Chrysler) charger:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/if...ar-in-america/

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Yeah, they'll be stuck with imports like this one maybe, porr buggers.

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LOL, I can just see them trying to keep up with a WRX around the back streets of Syd

[Wretched]

Question is what are the requirements of HWY patrol cars these days?
Many chases are now done via aerial surveillance.

[bc47]

have seen a couple of highway patrol SRT-8s out this way already, think they may be based out of Dandenong?

[CoupeKing]

Most of the countries that have 'small' Police cars, or vehicles based on a sports car, don't carry guns, or at least a full utility belt. I remember when they used Subaru's here for the first time , Coppers hated them. Tip your cutlery draw onto the seat or your daily and go for a spin.

[blk6t]

It will be odd seeing anything new or different. I think our current batch and livery looks menacing and tough.

It most likely won't happen but Mustang would be perfect with RWD config and looks to suit...

[XR Martin]

Problem is they buy the SS and XR6Ts at heavily discounted fleet rates, any other performance car wont be able to be bought at such low prices.

I suspect it will be end of hi-po highway patrol cars.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Problem is they buy the SS and XR6Ts at heavily discounted fleet rates, any other performance car wont be able to be bought at such low prices.

I suspect it will be end of hi-po highway patrol cars.

Maybe not, the public in Australia are gouged when it comes to European cars (compared to what they sell for in other countries).

I think the govt. could get there hands on BMW's, Merc's, Audi's etc.. for half of what we are charged.
And if they do they would then sell them once they hit their expiry date for not much less than what they paid for them.

[Dauphin]

I often say that Toyota need to engineer a four-door sedan out of their apparently excellent-handling 86 platform.

Maybe an aftermarket refurbishment program will come along to support the large fleets of Falcons and Commodores once production ends, much like the US has for the Crown Vics. The car manufacturers should setup their own program for this too, for a source of income and to provide jobs.

[bungarra]

Originally Posted by FGX310

Maybe not, the public in Australia are gouged when it comes to European cars (compared to what they sell for in other countries).

I think the govt. could get there hands on BMW's, Merc's, Audi's etc.. for half of what we are charged.
And if they do they would then sell them once they hit their expiry date for not much less than what they paid for them.

Exactly right on the government prices for vehicles. A friend through their government agency they work for can purchase vehicles at government rate plus 10%. They purchased a Ranger XLT for $40K on road.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Dauphin

I often say that Toyota need to engineer a four-door sedan out of their apparently excellent-handling 86 platform.

They would just need to put a real engine in it. I'd imagine it would take forever to catch up to a speeder with that gutless 2.5 boxer.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They would just need to put a real engine in it. I'd imagine it would take forever to catch up to a speeder with that gutless 2.5 boxer.

Actually a 2.0L boxer, and yes it does need replacing with this motor:

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/11/s...8-japan-video/

[BlueOvalPrint]

Polestar modded Volvo S60 already under evaluation in the ACT: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...ed-volvo-48851

Volvos have been very popular with police in the UK and Europe for years...

[Legit290]

Volvos have been very popular with police in the UK and Europe for years...[/QUOTE]


They have always been very popular with old men wearing hats.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by BlueOvalPrint

Polestar modded Volvo S60 already under evaluation in the ACT: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...ed-volvo-48851

Volvos have been very popular with police in the UK and Europe for years...

Sweet, at $100k that will mean they'll be atleast half as many cop cars on the road.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Legit290

They have always been very popular with old men wearing hats.

Nah, public servants and hat wearing bowls club members now drive Camry's, This (non hat wearing) old man has a couple of old Benz's and an XG

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Question is what are the requirements of HWY patrol cars these days?
Many chases are now done via aerial surveillance.

I know in SA the police aren't allowed to continue a pursuit if the suspect is driving dangerously-so they ALL drive dangerously in order to drop the police. They don't NEED performance cars with this type of limp wristedness going on.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by timeout

Raptor:

Things like the Dodge (Chrysler) charger:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/if...ar-in-america/

Best choice bar none

here's hoping

[zilo]

Most people can be apprehended with a police car that is powered by a 1.3 litre engine.

those that run for it usually end up around a pole even with a gutless divvy van in pursuit.

This nonsense of police needing high powered V8 cars is simply not reality.

They have a radio that works faster than any hoon can get across a suburb.

[XR Martin]

What about getting to a scene of an accident? If the cop can get there 1min faster he might be able to drag someone out of a burning car before they die a firey death...

From what I see of them they spend alot of time heading out to accidents on a main highway near me, not chasing hoons.

[mik]

Originally Posted by zilo

Most people can be apprehended with a police car that is powered by a 1.3 litre engine.

those that run for it usually end up around a pole even with a gutless divvy van in pursuit.

This nonsense of police needing high powered V8 cars is simply not reality.

They have a radio that works faster than any hoon can get across a suburb.

i would disagree Zilo , there are circumstances where seconds count, an armed assailant in your house with your wife and kids ......do you really want the police responding from across the burbs in a barina spark ???
and yes radios are pretty good at times ...... but not always.

[GTP-RPD]

Isthmus what he meant asa 1.3 litre.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3227/...d1098bcdef.jpg

[XR5]

As far as NSW goes, I don't know for the other states, all of our Police fleet vehicles are no longer bought but leased. That is why you don't see any ex HWP vehicles from NSW at GVT auction anymore.

I am out of the coppers now but a few of the boys I know in traffic services have been told that NSW will be going to use the mustang for HWP duties, with the turbo 4 being used in metro areas and the V8 being used in country areas. I have no doubt they will be looking at other options as well and still will use the commodore until it ceases production but apparently the stang is definitely a go.

HWP do definitely need high performance vehicles. It is not all about pursuits. HWP are more often than not the first ones at incidents like shootings, riots, prangs, domestics, armed robs, person on premises etc. while our core function is traffic enforcement, we still attend these other incidents to back up the General Duties guys.

As far as pursuits go, high performance vehicles are a requirement there too. It takes less effort to keep up with and chase an offender in a HWP vehicle than a generic sedan. Remember while the offender does not have to give any regard to everything around him, we still have to chase with the best interest and safety of the public in mind, eg we won't just punch through an intersection in a pursuit, we slow a bit, ensure it is clear, then we need that higher performance vehicle in order to make up the lost ground from clearing the intersection safely. There are a thousand more examples as well but mainly that power is needed due to the extra requirement we have to pursue safely. If all we had to do was chase the car like on a race track then yeah, give us a Camry, we will catch him. But, it doesn't work that way. Anyone who has been in a pursuit or urgent duty run through traffic will soon vouch for that.

Bear in mind we are also more highly trained than your average officer too. Not anyone can jump in and drive a NSW HWP vehicle. You need to have completed and passed (not everyone makes it through) a further five day intensive training course over and above the standard course for all officers in order to gain high speed and pursuit certification. This course is only open to HWP trainees. Even the commissioner can't jump in a HWP vehicle and do an urgent duty run in it. He is not certified.

[marty351]

lol, barina spark.
Would like to see an eco-friendly mazda 2 or ford fiesta, lowered and fart cannon.
That would get the publics attention!
Oh, and don't forget a little rainbow decal.

[xxx000]

HWP cars still come up at the auctions in NSW

I'm not aware of a change to leased vehicles

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by XR5

As far as NSW goes, I don't know for the other states, all of our Police fleet vehicles are no longer bought but leased. That is why you don't see any ex HWP vehicles from NSW at GVT auction anymore.

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Don't ex lease vehicles still get sold at auction? SA closed their govt auctions a few years ago instead letting pickles do the work.