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Old 19-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #11
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How the hell has this turned from ecoboost into $1000 taxis???

We all know 350nm is below 380nm, but the V6 will still destroy a Ba. What the hells your point? Doing it in much more comfort, with more features, whilst looking good and not having reliability issues.
Stop justifying owning a Ba, no one cares.

If you are after a full on race engine the alloytec can deliver.
The SIDI V6 that you hate so much revs freely to 9000rpm with just a cam change. The stock internals: forged pistons, rods and crank with 6 bolt mains and oil squirters.
It was also designed to be stroked out to 4.0l, ive never heard of a stroked 4.0I6 that isn't a boat anchor.

Give me an ecoboost or SIDI 3.6l over the Ba I6.

Can we get back on topic please lol

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The SIDI 3.6 is 'detuned' largely because holden wanted to get the torque much lower in a flatter torque curvve. This is why the peak torque is down, and hence why peak power has gone down with it (albeit teh peak power is also marketing related....) However, your suggestion that the FG can't make the 230kw is wrong. For example, you note that on a 'tune' the 3.6 picks up more, probably due to the detune. BUT, if you put 98 ron in your FG you can get to near 210kw....some 15kw more only by changing the juice you run it on.... With a retune and 98 ron you could get 220kw easy.....
Getting back on topic, imagine an ecoboost DI 3.7 (if they ever build it) now the 3.5 eB is impressive enough, if they EB the 3.7 it will go close to being a straight replacement for the 4.0I6T, at least in XR6T spec....
I see what your saying, but the SIDI in the states have achieved a flatter torque curve on all accounts from what I've seen?? I also think Holden detuned it because there would be TOO big a gap between the 3.0l and 3.6l, not to mention when the next engine update comes out, they can just fix the tune... easy, and typically holden. What will they do after DI on the alloytecs? produce a new engine? lol

I see what your saying with the FG on premium, but what does the SIDI achieve on premium? A stock standard but tuned SIDI alloytec makes 247kw and around 395nm of torque from looking on a few sites. I haven't tuned my FG yet, but have a few mods and run it on premium, so 230kw/440nm to me sounds good

Have ford actually been quoted in saying what the XR6T will be replaced with, and if it will get direct injection?
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