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View Poll Results: How many times have you been caught speeding? | |||
Never; and I'm proud of it! | 34 | 16.59% | |
1 -5; the occasional mind lapse | 115 | 56.10% | |
6 - 10; neither here nor there | 32 | 15.61% | |
10 -20; Speeding, what's that? | 14 | 6.83% | |
20 +; I'm happy to donate to the upkeep of our roads! | 10 | 4.88% | |
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13-09-2023, 01:12 PM | #121 | ||
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14-09-2023, 11:58 AM | #122 | |||
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Such on the highway are a pest and may of caused most crashes i am sure. I was leading my father in law who was 89yo driving behind me, he never has driven over 80 KM/H as well, so i was doing 80 on the gold coast to bris and i have never been so scared in my life of being run into or driven off the road , it's dangerous to sit on 80, insanity ! i will never do that again. Speeding is not the issue in fact, it's being an idiot, That is the major problem in fact ! |
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14-09-2023, 12:27 PM | #123 | ||
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Reminds me of.. https://youtu.be/mTUhnIY3oRM?si=PeENkPIF0hJLbsPc
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14-09-2023, 08:54 PM | #124 | ||
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16-09-2023, 08:09 AM | #125 | ||
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3 times in 25 years, minor infractions...
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16-09-2023, 02:19 PM | #126 | ||
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twice, one on phillip island vic 76 in an 80 zone got it in the mail claming 60 zone..
two, fixed camera bonnyrig nsw 70 in a 60 zone, lapse in concentration..
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16-09-2023, 02:50 PM | #127 | ||
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3 times in 23 years.
Once with a 4 figure fine and 6 month suspension. 114/60kph, young and dumb. 2 within 3 days, one on way to MEL, one on way home. Im permanently scared from the first one, ive learnt from it. * i have all 3 hanging in my shed. Including the first one, hand written from 2003
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18-09-2023, 05:01 PM | #128 | ||
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Over 54 yrs of driving and riding motorcycles, most certainly in the 20+ group, but not happy paying into govt general revenue .... if it did go on the roads then I'd at least feel a bit better about the thousands I have contributed .... has it stopped me speeding? Did getting a hangover the next day stop anyone from drinking alcohol? Same thing, once the pain has passed, life returns to normal ;)
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18-09-2023, 05:16 PM | #129 | ||
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Once actually being pulled over by an NSW Evel Knievel as a courier in 1983.
and a recent (last year) sneaky camera car hiding in the bushes, 102km in 100 zone on the old Hume.
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18-09-2023, 05:20 PM | #130 | ||
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: Son got a fine in the mail on a trip to visit us in Mannum SA. Travelled all the way from Wollongong NSW and got caught with an average speed camera coming through the back Rd they call the Sturt Hwy, average 125km/h in 110 zone ... he must have been moving, there are quite a few stop to turn sections along the route they averaged ........
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18-09-2023, 07:19 PM | #131 | ||
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Once in 2008. Exceeding 40 in a school zone. Flaggy lady was taking flag down from crossing, I didn't slow to 40, thinking it was after 9 am. Mr constable had a different idea. It was 2 minutes before 9 am! Lesson, "Look at time and allow for a few minutes."
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19-09-2023, 10:21 AM | #132 | |||
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This article provides a good summary of the differences between states https://www.9news.com.au/national/wh...n%20present%22.
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19-09-2023, 07:42 PM | #133 | ||
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Could be worse. Have heard complaints from people booked for school zone speeding when there was a teachers strike on and no school....
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23-09-2023, 07:06 PM | #134 | ||
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In this great State of Dan, 25 over is now 'excessive speeding' and gets a mandatory six month suspension and nearly $800 fine... Points, record etc dont matter all.
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24-09-2023, 07:08 AM | #135 | ||
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In this day and age it's a joke we can't even nationalize the countries road rules.
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24-09-2023, 07:28 AM | #136 | |||
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Further to that, strategy for implementing compliance with national road rules should follow a nationally agreed and observed policy. |
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People may think that's not a big deal but in Victoria there's no legislation protecting you from discrimination from employers over having a current criminal conviction Quote:
The only discrimination protection you have is for spent convictions and only since December 2021, so if anyone ever cops the excessive speed charge, go contest it in court with legal representation and try score no conviction recorded from the magistrate which will give you discrimination protection with employers in the form of the spent convictions act 2021. |
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24-09-2023, 08:49 AM | #138 | |||
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but in NSW you can drive a long way without confirmation of what the speed limit is…. could that be a deliberate thing? |
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24-09-2023, 10:31 AM | #139 | |||
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24-09-2023, 12:07 PM | #140 | |||
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Speeding has always been regarded as a driving offence (unless you are evading Police) and until I read the wording here, never regarded it as a criminal offence.Maybe at over 25km/h they regard it as showing intentional as opposed to lapse of concentration.
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24-09-2023, 12:24 PM | #141 | ||||
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Its the same class as exceeding speed limit by 45km/h or more, dangerous driving charges, low level violent crimes like assaults, domestic/family violence charges et al. They are all summary offences, the low level speeding offences just come up on your VicRoads driving history, just the normal sub 25km/h speeding fines and that sort of stuff. This is what my driving records show: I've literally not had one minor offence, ever. But, there's this: However its a spent conviction, thanks to the magistrate giving me no conviction recorded, so it won't get disclosed to employers by Victoria Police on a criminal record check, nor can they discriminate against me for a spent conviction as it gives me a legal avenue to chase should someone try. If someone asks me for the complete VicRoads driving history, it appears on my convictions list as you can see above, but it doesn't on a criminal record check from Victoria Police - which gives me legal protection from discrimination under the spent convictions act 2021. Best $550 I've ever spent was on legal representation, no conviction recorded, and one of the charges dropped. A friend got done for 75 over the limit, the police dropped it down to 65 over the limit for him on the side of the road, But he went into court with no legal representation on poor advice, plead guilty and ended up scoring dangerous driving and driving at dangerous speed convictions, now he gets discriminated against by employers because he has a criminal conviction, he got rejected from a cleaning job at Melbourne Airport, after he got offered the position once the criminal record check came back, and there's nothing he can do about it because there is no discrimination protection for people with current criminal convictions in Victoria. It's going to effect him for the next decade, until it becomes a spent conviction. Also as these summary offences carry mandatory sentences (loss of licence), it makes you ineligible for the diversion program - where you make a donation and avoid the criminal justice system (and resulting criminal convictions). One of our senators (Ralph Babet) got a diversion for an assault, where he beat someone, if he got done for 25km/h over the speed limit, he wouldn't have been eligible for the diversion program and would be a convicted criminal. Prior to this legislation change in 2021 with the spent convictions act - this is the kind of effect criminal convictions have on your prospects: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-...ports/11447036 Someone who took two planks of wood 40 years ago was still having issues with discrimination. There was people with historic convictions for things like being gay which was effecting them on employment prospects, it was only in 2015 in Victoria that they got specific legislation to remove these historic criminal convictions, and even then they had to specifically apply to get rid of them - imagine having criminal conviction because of your sexual orientation. People don't realise how serious we treat driving offences in Victoria, for things you wouldn't think much of, get done for rolling off the throttle into a 60 roadworks zone at around 100km/h and you're joining the ranks of people with criminal convictions. Hell, go remap a modern truck to turn off the DPF regeneration and Adblue duty cycle, look at how they're treated: Quote:
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24-09-2023, 01:09 PM | #142 | ||
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When i do get caught speeding i dont be a smartarse to the coppers and take it like a champ,almost every time they reduce the fine cost and drop the recorded speed down,most cops are reasonable if you dont be a clown.
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My first magistrate was sympathetic towards me, but because of the mandatory 12 month cancellation period, she had to give me the 12 month loss of licence as she can only do what the law said. Because this mandatory sentence, it also meant I was ineligible for the diversion program: Quote:
Excessive speed - the 25km/h and over job we're talking about, carries a mandatory/fixed sentence/penalty of loss of licence, so you're automatically out for the diversion program. The second magistrate on going through the licence eligibility order process to get my licence back after the cancellation period, tore me a new ******* over it on the witness stand. Its very much frowned upon by our magistrates, but other violent crimes are treated way less harshly than speeding offences. |
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24-09-2023, 01:20 PM | #144 | |||
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He was at my window, and asked - 'how fast do you think you were going' and I responded 'About 160km/h'. And he started yelling and then said I got you at 161 and 135, I can book you for either, so I'm going to book you for the 161. Then because I made an admission, it removed an avenue from my lawyer to negotiate with the prosecutor - that was a massive own goal. It was my first ever offence to with a mint driving history (mint on paper anyway ) I would have been way better off telling him to get ****ed. Luckily, the prosecution team on the day agreed to drop the dangerous driving charge because my lawyer mentioned that I was going to plead guilty if they agreed to drop it. If they didn't I was going to plead not guilty and then take up the fight with them in court, then they would have had to prove even though I was driving well over the limit, I wasn't necessarily driving 'dangerously'. I think you need to pick your battles with where you make your admissions, the low level stuff, sure it doesn't hurt to play the attitude test game, but on the big ones you reduce your legal options when the court summons come in. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 24-09-2023 at 01:45 PM. |
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24-09-2023, 01:57 PM | #145 | ||
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I sadly can confirm, that in the State of Dan, even the local copper if on highway patrol duties has his radar, car cam and body cam all linked up. They are basically robots to go along with the puppet judgements... No discretion or thinking allowed.
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24-09-2023, 02:53 PM | #146 | |||
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Think I'll be keeping my NSW Licence. https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default...g_offences.pdf From one of the many lawyers website.. DO TRAFFIC OFFENCES GO ON A CRIMINAL RECORD? Traffic offences can be shown on a criminal record, although it will depend on the nature and severity of the crime. If a traffic offence does not go to court, generally it will not appear on a criminal record. Major traffic offences which may appear on your criminal record may include: Negligent driving (if convicted in court) Drink driving Driving under the influence of drugs Driving whilst on suspension or probation Being found guilty of a traffic offence whilst on a good behaviour bond Driving with falsified documents
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25-09-2023, 11:04 PM | #147 | |||
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Not sure about QLD, QLD seems to love massive fines for minor things which is rather strange given QLD is like Australia's equivalent of Florida, markets itself as laid back, slow paced and has a tonne of old 'refugees' escaping VIC weather, but then massive fines and enforcement of minor traffic offences |
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01-10-2023, 06:29 PM | #148 | ||
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I racked up 55 demerit points in the space of 12 months in Victoria. Thank **** they don't apply to my WA license.
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13-10-2023, 05:13 PM | #149 | ||
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Hi Every one,
I was a professional Driver for 30 years and the last time i was booked was 15 years ago. Ive been booked 3 times since i got my licence which was in 1976. |
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