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12-11-2010, 12:12 PM
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If You Seek AU
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The Best Car Awards, run by the various state motoring organisations (NRMA, RACV, RAA etc) have released the list of finalists for 2010...
Best Light Car under $20,000No mention of the VEII, but not sure on the rules for release date... http://www.raa.com.au/page.aspx?TerID=162
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12-11-2010, 04:02 PM
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Wirlankarra yanama
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There are models listed which I haven't ever heard of. What the heck is a Volkswagen Passatt CC 125 TDI or Volkswagen Polo 66 TDI Comfortline? Of more concern is that someone may actually know!
I would struggle to remember when (if ever) I've seen some of these cars. If these cars were so truly good then they'd be everywhere! The list seems irrelevant to what most people are trying to make do, and driving with, on a day-to-day basis. <end of rant> |
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12-11-2010, 04:10 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Not one single Holden. That sucks.
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12-11-2010, 05:25 PM
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McDonald's is the most popular restaurant in the world. Commodore is the most popular car in Australia. Should I go on? Do you have some other nominees for some of the categories then?
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12-11-2010, 05:40 PM
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Meep Meep
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Well being the Auto clubs we know the Aurion AT-X has already wrapped up the large car. So fingers crossed the Fiesta can get something
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12-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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Render unto Caesar
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Polo is a turbo diesel (66kw 1.6l). Google is a good start. My parents have a Polo 77 comfortline and it is a fantastic little car...oozes quality. It will be a tough one between the Fiesta and the Polo, both are by far the best small/micro cars under 25k.
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12-11-2010, 08:26 PM
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Now Fordless
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I drove a Passat wagon yesterday. Nice car.
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12-11-2010, 09:25 PM
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12-11-2010, 09:38 PM
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Wirlankarra yanama
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The categories are mostly meaningless , as if any manufacturer builds a car with the intention of winning "Best Light Car under $20,000". WTF does "best light car" actually mean, does it incorporate Lego peices? Imagine going down the pub and talking to your mates, or chatting up a girl... I've got "the Best Light Car under $20,000"...  Best All Terrain 4WD Landrover Discovery 4 TDV6 SE Toyota Landcruiser GXL Toyota Prado GXL Anyone who actually goes off-road will tell you that seeing a Discovery 4 off the tarmac is as rare as hens teeth. So what is the point of having it on the list? A Jeep Rubicon at 1/2 the cost is better off road. Best Sports Car under $80,000 BMW 135i Coupe Volkwagen Golf Gti Volkswagen Golf R Best Sports Car over $80,000 Audi S4 TFSI Quattro Audi TT-S TFSI Quattro BMW M3 Coupe Seems to be a slight preference towards German cars, the rest of the world must build junk. Real people with mortgages and families and credit cards buy cars to maximize their options, for example it could be argued that Best Large Car over $60,000 & Best Luxury SUV over $60,000 & Best All Terrain 4WD & Best People Mover = Toyota Landcruiser LC200 Twin Turbo VX or Sahara. So many cars on the list simply do not represent everyday Australian reality. These cars seem to have caught the eye of the daydreaming latté sipping journalist catering for tofu loving pretenders that inhabit most cities. |
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12-11-2010, 09:43 PM
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Couldn't have put it better myself.I usually take these type of awards with a grain of salt. |
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12-11-2010, 09:57 PM
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12-11-2010, 10:01 PM
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12-11-2010, 10:02 PM
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As I stated before it's not meant to be a what's the best thing for driving in Shorts and thongs. Read this, nowhere does income enter the equation. http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/criteria.htm http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/criteria2.htm
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12-11-2010, 10:42 PM
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12-11-2010, 11:03 PM
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Keep saying it the Ford Fiesta wins awards all over the World the Europeans love it.
Ford Australia need to find a way to sell more, 1000 units a month is small fish in this ever growing segment.. My wife has one for nearly 3 years not one problem or warranty claim, she does want a new one soon..
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12-11-2010, 11:04 PM
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12-11-2010, 11:33 PM
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The LR Discovery is far from the best 4wd off road, but it may still win best offroader due to it's other pluses. Few VW's on that list. Not surprising really. Drive my mums Golf sometimes and it's fantastic. It's a 2007 model, I also Drove a 2007 or 2008 SV6 and the Golf drivers better and the interior looks and feels better. And The Golf cost 10K less. |
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13-11-2010, 12:48 AM
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i`d like to see the xr6 get a geurnsey, its a bloody ripping car.
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13-11-2010, 04:01 AM
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A bit perplexed as to how Kia and Hyundai can get nominations in best SUV over $40k, but no mention of the Freelander 2, which actually will go places other than the road.
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13-11-2010, 07:53 AM
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Where is all the advertising for Ford's great products? Holden absolutely smothers us everywhere with ads, but Ford seems to insist upon the notion that because they make a great product, people will know about, test drive and buy it. They need an agressive marketing campaign I reckon. GK
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13-11-2010, 08:41 AM
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13-11-2010, 09:58 AM
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ha, this happens all the time. Holden/Toyota never has the best product in its class, often the last or 2nd last in their various classes yet outsells everyone.
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13-11-2010, 02:04 PM
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13-11-2010, 05:51 PM
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14-11-2010, 11:27 PM
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To minimise your thinking, i'll help you with a criteria. - There are no odd panel gaps in the Polo, paint is even. - Doors shut with a solid thud - Use of materials inside far exceeds anything in it's class. - Fit and finish of components are superb for a sub 25k car. - Handling is second only to the Fiesta - Engines are economical but are not complete slugs. Quote:
They build it for a market, winning a car within a category is a bonus. What is wrong with winning an award for best car in class? Best light car is a small vehicle, use some common sense. What would you like to see small cars competing with? Merc S class? They're broken up into the categories that best fit the market the car is built for. I didn't think it could be much more difficult to understand. Quote:
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Your suggestion is too generic, most people have credit cards, mortgages, etc. Doesn't mean they all will have the same budget or requirements for a car. It isn't about the purchaser in any case. It clearly defines the criteria and has split them up into the relevant catgories. Price and function of the vehicle. Can't be much easier than that. Who cares what people can and can't afford, that doesn't make the vehicle any worse or better.
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15-11-2010, 07:15 AM
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Well now, the cat is certainly amongst the pigeons.
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15-11-2010, 02:34 PM
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Our little Fiesta is a cracking car. Having owned a VW Passat, I think the German Ford cars are every bit as good as the other German stuff.
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Calling the Golfs "sports cars" is a bit of a stretch, they are hatches.
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2010 'Australia's Best Car Awards' finalists
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