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Old 06-03-2013, 01:09 AM   #1
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Default New Porsche 911 GT3 - auto PDK only!

Again pinched from another forum. No manual option & electric power steering, otherwise it's all good.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/04/p...3-geneva-2013/

Porsche Debuts Fifth Generation of the 911 GT3

World premiere at the Geneva Motor Show

Atlanta. The new Porsche 911 GT3 premieres this week at the Geneva International Motor Show. The completely-redeveloped fifth generation of the 911 GT3 occupies the top position among Porsche sports cars with naturally-aspirated engines. With an impressive lap time on the Nürburgring Nordschleife of under 7:30 minutes, the 2014 911 GT3 benefits from a new engine, transmission, body and chassis. The car now sprints from zero to 60 mph in 3.3 seconds on its way to a top track speed of 195 mph. The 2014 911 GT3 will go on sale in the United States late in 2013 and will be priced from $130,400, not including a $950 destination charge.

As a technical highlight, the 911 GT3 features the first active rear-wheel steering in a production Porsche, as well as optional full LED headlights. The new GT3 brings to everyday driving many of the properties of a sports car developed on the track, and preserves the highly emotional fun factor.

The powertrain of the new 911 GT3 is composed of a 3.8-liter boxer engine yielding 475 hp (125 hp/liter) featuring a 9,000 rpm redline and a specially developed Porsche dual-clutch transmission (PDK) which drives the rear wheels. The six-cylinder engine is based on the same engine as the 911 Carrera S, although they share only a few common parts. All other components, particularly the crankshaft and valve gear, were specially adapted or designed for the GT3. For instance, Porsche designed titanium connecting rods and forged pistons for this engine.

The Porsche dual-clutch transmission in this application has been specially developed for the 911 GT3: the characteristics are based directly on a sequential gearbox from racing, thereby providing further performance and dynamic advantages to the driver. Highlights include shorter gear ratios with closer spacing, even faster shifting, and shift paddles with shorter travel and increased tactile feedback, which now allow the driver to place the PDK in neutral simply by pulling on both paddles at the same time.

For the first time, Porsche is employing active rear wheel steering to achieve even higher steering precision and improved lateral dynamics. Depending on the speed, the rear wheels steer in the same or opposite direction of the front wheels, improving stability and agility. Other new features that improve driving dynamics are an electronically controlled, fully variable rear differential lock and dynamic engine mounts. Contact with the road is made by new 20-inch, forged alloy wheels with center-locking hubs in place of conventional wheel bolts.

The 2014 911 GT3 is based on the light yet stiff body of the current generation 911 Carrera, which employs a hybrid steel and aluminum construction; however, it comes with unique front and rear parts specific to the GT3. In addition, the 911 GT3 is 1.7 inches wider than a 911 Carrera S in the rear. Another distinctive feature is the large, fixed rear wing, which contributes to the exemplary aerodynamics.

By combining low air resistance with even more power, the 2014 911 GT3 sets new performance standards. At full acceleration from standstill, the 60 mph mark is reached after just 3.3 seconds, and on the track 124 mph is reached in less than twelve seconds.

About Porsche Cars North America

Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), based in Atlanta, Ga. is the exclusive U.S. importer of Porsche sports cars, the Cayenne SUV and Panamera sports sedan. Established in 1984, it is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Porsche AG, which is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany, and employs approximately 220 people who provide parts, service, marketing and training for 190 dealers. They, in turn, work to provide Porsche customers with a best-in-class experience that is in keeping with the brand's 63-year history and leadership in the advancement of vehicle performance, safety and efficiency.

At the core of this success is Porsche's proud racing heritage that boasts some 30,000 motorsport wins to date.

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:23 AM   #2
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Oh dear...what will the "real men drive manuals" brigade do now...:-)
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:50 AM   #3
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Oh dear...what will the "real men drive manuals" brigade do now...:-)
Keep buying manuals.
Don't care how good the auto is.
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Default Re: New Porsche 911 GT3 - auto PDK only!

If this is pulling 3.3 to 100, what will the GT2 be with its awd and turbos?

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Old 06-03-2013, 08:16 AM   #5
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WOW a post that doesn't mention the SRT8
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:41 AM   #6
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If this is pulling 3.3 to 100, what will the GT2 be with its awd and turbos?

Any pics?
Only the turbos get awd, the GT2 is usually rear only hence its nickname the widow maker. I am not a fan of Porsche, but thats impressive.
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Default Re: New Porsche 911 GT3 - auto PDK only!

Real shame at the lack of no manual. Not that it affects me, I'll never be able to afford one, but still! What about Cup cars? Will they be racing with the PDK too?
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Sad about the manual. As mentioned before, the auto may be quicker, more fuel efficient. But you do feel more at one with the car with a manual.

Came argument with a V8 ant turbo 6, the 6 may be faster, more fuel efficient however the V8 sounds tougher and some say has more soul (what ever that means in a car).
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #9
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Richard Hammond probably has one on order already.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:11 PM   #10
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i'd still hit it
Hopefully the GT3 RS will be manual though
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Given that some race cars use clutchless/tiptronic/whatwhat gear boxes these days...a lack of a clutch and stick manual gearbox doesn't seem that odd...
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Given that some race cars use clutchless/tiptronic/whatwhat gear boxes these days...a lack of a clutch and stick manual gearbox doesn't seem that odd...
Can see your point but for me Porsche and its 911 was the last of true sports cars. Its about history and pedigree, much like the reasoning behind its shape only ever really being tweeked.

In saying that they have developed that 7 speed manual so the thought is still there, its just one other thing that made a 911 special IMO.

Cant say the electric steering gets much of a good wrap either. But damn does it look the business.
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Cry, Rodge, cry. The perfection of the Porsche manual in the GT3 was one of the most special things in motoring. And I, and many others, would still favour the self swapper as it is such a special experience to the purity of the previous GT3 models. The most perfect car I have ever experienced, and my revhead life will not be complete unless I own one before I die. If you can't afford one, never drive one, it will ruin you for life and make everything else you ever drive feel like poo.
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I would have been disappointed if I didn't get a nibble from you Trev :-)

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reminds me of this cool Mini ad

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Here's a nice video about the 991 GT3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ECATvlRf3ls
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They'll say it's s#*t, that's what they'll say.

All you people that say how good modern autos are, tippy tow granny's, snappy paddle slur a lots because they're so refined, so user friendly, so nice, so smooooth.....

Ill take a rock crushing, crunchy, driveline slappy direct drive manually changed clutch engaged box of gears every time.

Grunt plus clutch, combined with gates and gears.

perfect.

Maybe not the fastest way, but likely the most demanding, and certainly the most rewarding.
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http://cdn.astonmartin.com/sitefinit...h.pdf?sfvrsn=0

Only comes with an auto gearbox...hmmm I'm sure belting the above Porsche or the new Vanquish would be a most unrewarding experience

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Only comes with an auto gearbox...hmmm I'm sure belting the above Porsche or the new Vanquish would be a most unrewarding experience
Way to miss the point.

I do agree with your post though. But if a manual was available, and by long shot chance i could purchase. i know what id buy.
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Having the dosh for a Porsche and then optioning (or not in this case) an automatic does my head in, it goes against the whole point of the car. Get a Cayenne or Panamera, even then a Panamera with a manual would be pretty sweet.
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Well here is Chris Harris' review of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVdme...layer_embedded

Got to say I love my manual gearboxes but after this I wouldn't turn down a PDK equipped GT3.
Porsche you have out done yourself once again, how much better can the RS be?
I seriously have to own a GT3 before I die.
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Yes me too, it is a must do
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if a manual was available, and by long shot chance i could purchase. i know what id buy.
Ditto - PDK all the way!!
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This is how you advertise a car.
http://youtu.be/Xfi__aUgfgE

EVO review - how fast around the circuit?
http://youtu.be/ocSjiJbevaU

I'll have mine in white or gun metal grey with those shadow rims
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I'd happily sip a coke while handling a cheese burger as well as whooping your manual **** into the weeds...
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Real shame at the lack of no manual.
I guess if the majority of their customers no longer buy manual, then it's probably just bleeding money keeping them.
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