Just a compare of performance.

[Stav]

Well going through a few mags with times I thought it would be interesting to compare 0-100 times then 1/4 mile times of different cars.Its funny how some cars look the part but can get undone by a slightly modded ford.

Alpha spider gt ........................... 6.9 14.8
Audi s4 ..................................... 5.6 13.9

Audi avant ................................ 4.8 12.9

Ba falcon .................................... 7.7 15.5
Ford xr6 turbo .............................. 6.0 14.3
Fpv gt ....................................... 6.0 14.2
Fpv gt-p ..................................... 6.4 14.5
F6 typhoon .................................. 6.3 14.6
Xr8 ba ........................................ 6.5 14.5

Bmw 330ci .................................. 6.6 14.8
Bmw m3 ..................................... 5.6 13.9
Sv6 commodore.................l.......... 7.2 15.2
Sv6 manual ................................ 6.9 15.1
Holden ss .................................. 5.9 14.1
Monaro cv8 ................................ 5.8 14.1


Honda stype integra .................. 7.2 15.2
Honda s2000 ............................ 6.8 14.9
Honda nsx ................................ 6.1 14.2
Forester turbo ........................... 6.6 14.8


Mazdz rx8 ................................ 6.4 14.8

Mercedes clk 500 ...................... 6.0 14.1
MG ZT .................................... 6.9 14.9
Mitsubishi lancer evo ................. 5.4 13.6

Nissan 350z ............................ 6.4 14.5
Porsche boxster 3.2 ................. 5.7 13.9
Porsche boxter 2.7 ................... 6.5 14.5

WRX ...................................... 5.8 13.8

Subaru liberty gt wagon.............. 6.9 14.9
Volvo s60 ................................ 6.1 14.4


Basically for all my i6 counterparts ..I have looked at around 200 cars this morning and each time a 0-100 run in 7 seconds or more equates to a 15sec+ pass
A 0-100 dash in 6.9 or under equates to a car in the 14 second bracket.

A 0-100 dash in 6.5 seconds equates to a 14.5 -14.8 1/4 mile.

[FPVWEPN]

if thats the case then ur saying thst ur car will run in the 14.5-14.8 bracket????

[Casper]

Originally Posted by useless

Basically for all my i6 counterparts ..I have looked at around 200 cars this morning and each time a 0-100 run in 7 seconds or more equates to a 15sec+ pass
A 0-100 dash in 6.9 or under equates to a car in the 14 second bracket.

A 0-100 dash in 6.5 seconds equates to a 14.5 -14.8 1/4 mile.

Doesnt work that way, WAY too many factors.
The Falcon auto alone destroys this comparison. The change from 2nd to 3rd kills the revs and wrecks top end speed.
Simple result, I can run 0-100 under 7 seconds often enough but I have yet to get into the 14's. This is more common on the Falcons than you can imagine.

Stav, all the speculation in the world means nothing. Until you go and race your AU you have a gtech 0-100 time and no 1/4 mile time. This means any comparison to real world capabilities of cars (magazine times are at best an inaccruate guide) with your car is guesswork.

[Stav]

Hmm I cant say what my car does down the 1/4 mlie.I have not done one...but across the mags a car which does the 0-100 times above 99%of the time get 1/4 mile time within those ranges.


FPVWEPN ...as I said above ,if I run a 1/4 mile then I will say what I ran..no truth in calculations..but statistically ,looking at a typical wheels mag those figures I have mentioned are quite close to reality.

I wont be fudging figures..but wanted this post to be for the general forum.I think non fudged figures will be very close to what I have posted.

[Stav]

So does anyone else know their 0-100 times and 1/4 mile times? Am I right or wrong.?

[Walkinshaw]

Simple fix. GET YOUR CAR DOWN THE STRIP.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by useless

So does anyone else know their 0-100 times and 1/4 mile times? Am I right or wrong.?

Once again, way too many variables. power, gearing, weight, transmission etc etc. So many variables. Have a look at the timeslip database. Some of the times and mph vary quite a bit based on the cars setup.

[xr8ute]

Gearing (ratio spread) needs to be considered carefully when trying to match 0-100 time to a potential 400m time.

I think our 4-speed auto's are a relatively wiiiiiiiiiiide spread of gear ratios. Are the same ratios between i6 and v8?

My Gtech 0-100 is ~6.2 and my best 400m time (WSID) is 14.544.

Using the 0-60mph calculator on that 14.544s run gave me a time of 5.8x seconds.

Don't forget we are not robots, most of the differences (we are talking tenths here), will be due to the driver shifting earlier/later, getting the throttle on different, and so on...

Then there is the EEC which is pulling timing at different rates to save the transmission, or in response to different air temps/oil temps.

Let me know when you are ready to take it to the track Stav, I'll come out with you and we can put all this speculation to rest ;)

I don't believe GTechs are accurate enough over 400m.

[stiddy]

0-100 in 7.0 and 7.1 (4000rpm launch) and a 1/4 time of 15.099@90.7mph and a 15.1@89mph
thats just my AU XR6 5spd manual

was answering useless..

[Stav]

Originally Posted by xr8ute

Gearing (ratio spread) needs to be considered carefully when trying to match 0-100 time to a potential 400m time.

I think our 4-speed auto's are a relatively wiiiiiiiiiiide spread of gear ratios. Are the same ratios between i6 and v8?

My Gtech 0-100 is ~6.2 and my best 400m time (WSID) is 14.544.

Using the 0-60mph calculator on that 14.544s run gave me a time of 5.8x seconds.

Don't forget we are not robots, most of the differences (we are talking tenths here), will be due to the driver shifting earlier/later, getting the throttle on different, and so on...

Then there is the EEC which is pulling timing at different rates to save the transmission, or in response to different air temps/oil temps.

Let me know when you are ready to take it to the track Stav, I'll come out with you and we can put all this speculation to rest ;)

I don't believe GTechs are accurate enough over 400m.

Ill have to scam one day by talking to the missus...but if I can I will ...and it will be fun.

[xr8ute]

Just tell the missus you are working late...you could install a mobile phone kit for me while we are waiting in the staging lanes. Then you could probably write-off the $45 entry as a tax deduction ;)

But seriously, if you are keen, let me know. I'll take the afternoon off work and we'll hit it :eclipsee_

[Stav]

Thanks for the offer.I ran it passed my wife and it was like I was going on a suicide mission...so unfortunately ... :

[16wantsI6]

so your saying a stock SS can beat a stcok gt??? ok... thats stuffed if its true, no wonder holden guys bag us if what you wrote is right.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

so your saying a stock SS can beat a stcok gt??? ok... thats stuffed if its true, no wonder holden guys bag us if what you wrote is right.

If you believed the magazines.. up until a few months ago, the GT was slower then an SV8...

Real life might tell a different story though.

[MITCHAY]

Well according to a one of the magazines an SV8 has a higher top speed than a R33 GTR. While i like SV8s i doubt this is the case.

[Stav]

Well today in another post on this forum a stock as rock f6 typhoon ran a 13 second bracket 1/4 mile.So I am thinking that the guys from wheels could have not given the vehicle a fair and correct time.

I wont be trusting wheels magazine to buy my next car.I thought we could trust these guys...but it seems that the tester in this case is made of plastic.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Well according to a one of the magazines an SV8 has a higher top speed than a R33 GTR. While i like SV8s i doubt this is the case.

So does an EA Falcon S... they were limited to 180km/h from the factory.

[MITCHAY]

Yeah but how many GTRs have limiters left on them. Not many.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Yeah but how many GTRs have limiters left on them. Not many.

So what? From the factory, they could not surpass 180km/h, period. Just like a CL65 AMG.. can do 340km/h without the limiter.. but its got it from the factory. Removing it = modification.

[MITCHAY]

Yeah but its not entirely the true sense of top performance. Limiters just stop it goin over a certain point it by no means means its incapable of goin further without mods (except removing the limiter). Remember a limiter limits something which doesnt mean it cant.

[XRchic]

Originally Posted by useless

Thanks for the offer.I ran it passed my wife and it was like I was going on a suicide mission...so unfortunately ... :

I'd like to see my other half try and tell me not to take my car down the strip!!!! out:

Its a pity you cant useless, it is great fun!

[MITCHAY]

Hey what they dont know cant hurt em right?

[Stav]

Originally Posted by XRchic

I'd like to see my other half try and tell me not to take my car down the strip!!!! out:

Its a pity you cant useless, it is great fun!

I would like to but then I have been always on the border about it. Sure I won't be getting down the 1/4 mile but I really enjoy good acceleration. Since chipping the car it has been fun to drive ,and just cruising the streets of Sydney for my business has been great.

I wouldnt do the 1/4 mile in normal driving so I am still happy with that.

At the end of the day my wife is the second pillar of my little family and as she respects my decisions,I respect hers.

[Stav]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Hey what they dont know cant hurt em right?

At the end of the day it depends on if you want to truly honour your relationship matey.

[Racecraft]

so she has no problems with you boy racing around the streets, traffic light grand prix and using the g-tech but she won't let you go to a place where it is legal and safe ...

I admire your loyalty Useless but either she needs to be educated to the comparitable dangers of how you gauge your performance now with the bum-o-meter and g-tech or you are just apprehensive on what your car will actually do in a legal, safe and FUN enviroment and have not explained it to her correctly.

[XHII V8S]

I took my XHII V8 down to the drags on Friday night. According to all those magazines my car only does a 16.9 for the 1/4. I've never raced before, so with a crappy launch, 1.2 second reaction time I managed to get a 16.648. To my knowledge my car is completely stock. So if Im a totally inexperienced drag racer and can better the time of magazine tests, doesn't that show some credibility issues?

[MITCHAY]

These magazine times would be averages. Has anyone done the exact same time back to back?

[Stav]

Originally Posted by Racecraft

so she has no problems with you boy racing around the streets, traffic light grand prix and using the g-tech but she won't let you go to a place where it is legal and safe ...

I admire your loyalty Useless .

I dont go dragging indiscriminately on the street.Gtech is in an off road place.Just the way it is...

[XHII V8S]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

These magazine times would be averages. Has anyone done the exact same time back to back?

No I didn't. All four runs were different, but within 2/10 of a second of each other. I would have thought that their times would be a bit faster because of their experience...I even did my times on standard ULP!!

[Aaron_EF8]

Well today in another post on this forum a stock as rock f6 typhoon ran a 13 second bracket 1/4 mile.So I am thinking that the guys from wheels could have not given the vehicle a fair and correct time.

Car magazines use GPS-based devices to measure cars 1/4 mile time etc, going to the drags will produce a quicker time due to rollout.