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Old 29-01-2008, 06:20 PM   #31
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http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...p?ChartsID=579

Thats a BMW 7 series. Uses the same 6 speed ZF Auto box that Ford uses.

http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...p?ChartsID=645

Thats an Audi S6 that uses the same box

http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...hp?ChartsID=80

Jag XJ8

All use the same Auto box as the Falcon. How come none of them drop so much from the flywheel to the rear wheels. Is it that Ford's have over-rated power figures?
because dyno's are extremely accurate aren't they.
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Old 29-01-2008, 06:50 PM   #32
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Tractive effort converted to power or torque measurements are generally fairly favourable to an enthusiastic client.

There are enough Ford guys who have had their cars dynoed as stock to confirm the figures I quoted. These are the guys who really want to know the effects of mods so get a baseline first.

I thought the BMW 740I 2001 was 240kW out of the box?

The Audi is dropping 60kW according to the RRI graph

Does the Falcon use the BMW differential?


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BA XR6T 240 BkW; 180 RWkW
BA XR8 260 BkW ; 190 RWkW

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Old 29-01-2008, 07:52 PM   #33
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What about the 6 man dose anyone know how much power they chew up?
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Old 29-01-2008, 08:08 PM   #34
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You cant work off a percentage as 20% of 300 kw is 60 kw but if you have 400 kw, 20% of that is 80 kw it wont change when you add more power.
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Old 29-01-2008, 09:00 PM   #35
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Actually gear tooth losses are expressed as a % of load in helical and spur gears. The churning losses tend to be constant.

A typical helical or spur gear mesh has about 2% frictional tooth loss. So if you had, (as illustration) 5 gear meshes running at 98% efficiency the total efficiency would be 0.98^5 = 90%. Even with a lockup converter there are still indirect coupling losses. On top of this there are tailshaft losses and differential/axle losses.
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