Supercharged 2010 GT - Page 2

05MkIIFutura · 14-06-2009, 07:23 PM

It will be interesting to see how ford spec's it in the interest of long term durability. 380kw would surely have serious impacts on required maintenance and replacement intervals.

**Falcon Coupe** · 14-06-2009, 07:25 PM

Lets hope it hooks up well enough to put the GT on top.

wodahs · 14-06-2009, 07:49 PM

think id be interested as well
and hope they use the supercharged motor out of the mustang gt500

Auslandau · 14-06-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OZQUAD44

Lets hope they don't bring out the GTHO badge.

Lets hope they do! If its good enough there is no reason it can't.

Would be happy to hold off updating if this was all going to actually happen. Will wait and see but wont hold my breath just yet.

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OZQUAD44 · 14-06-2009, 08:11 PM

No matter how good it is, it won't be a race car thinly veiled as a road car. In this day and age its never going to happen. Thats why I don't think they should bring out the nameplate.

If by some miracle, they bring out a club racer version of a GT that can blow other club racer type cars into the weeds, sure call it GTHO until the cows come home. But The GTHO name plate has a lot of folklaw to live up to, I'd hate to see them muff it.

This new five litre donk has lots of promise though. potentially this motor could see its way into competition (read V8 super-cars) then having that race link would make the case for a GTHO nameplate all that more compelling.

burnz · 14-06-2009, 08:17 PM

hopefully they price it against the hsv offering, sub 100k.

naddis01 · 14-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Has anyone actually confirmed this will happen or is all of this just coming from the one CarAdvice article?

It sort of reminds me of this in the lead up to the FG being released.

BOSSGT302 · 14-06-2009, 10:01 PM

The Mister of War and Peace is grubbling about having a private mobile plus a work ph, a second GT will be worth the battle, Bring on the s/c Gt with serious KWs. I want a BOSS 351.

ST · 14-06-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

hopefully they price it against the hsv offering, sub 100k.

HSV don't have an offering, supercharged Clubsport is aftermarket.

Joshvee · 14-06-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EgoFalcon

If they do bring this out, I would say yes the f6 would be redundant

why? a simple flash tune and some stage 2 mods will see an F6 do 400 to 450 RWKW. and still get the great economy of a 6 (if u don't stick ur foot down) A supercharged V8 will suck the fuel like a coke addict.

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Originally Posted by ST

HSV don't have an offering, supercharged Clubsport is aftermarket.

True, the 470 KW supercharged Clubsport is aftermarket, but thats still what the Supercharged GT will be compared to.

ST · 14-06-2009, 10:59 PM

You'd be pretty stupid to compare them both. Comparing factory with aftermarket is illogical and irrelevant, especially in terms of price and power. The fact is that FPV are releasing a Supercharged GT and HSV doesn't have a competing supercharged vehicle.

Why can't we just have everybody give some positive feedback for Ford/FPV for once? They are doing something most of us Ford fans have been dreaming of since the GT badge was resurrected, a supercharged GT worthy of the badge. Instead we get "HSV has a 470kw supercharged Clubsport for under 100k" (which THEY don't) as though it won't satisfy you unless it matches those power and price figures which is ludicrous.

I'll bet even the boys on the LS1 forums are saying more positive things about the possibility of a supercharged GT than here. There is way too much negativity in this place lately.

Thornie · 14-06-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brute6

F6 redundant???? I will guarantee you that won't happen for a fair while yet..... Don't expect much change to the F6 next July, but yes, the S/C V8 will certainly put something positive back into the Blue Oval!

exactly not while the FG F6's can pump out a 12 sec 1/4 stock

WASP · 14-06-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshvee

A supercharged V8 will suck the fuel like a coke addict.
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That's not entirely true. In most cases a supercharger had the BOSS applications more fuel efficient to a point. When running 7psi on my stock engine, my average fuel usuage dropped from 17/ltrs to around 14/ltrs. With the bulit engine it wasn't as good, but it was running much higher boost. Generally speaking, the blower helps the engine run more effeciently. Can't speak for this new engine yet obviously.

Regardling the F6, I don't think it will be made redundant at all, but I do think it may lose some sales to the blown GT.

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**Falcon Coupe** · 14-06-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ST

You'd be pretty stupid to compare them both. Comparing factory with aftermarket is illogical and irrelevant, especially in terms of price and power. The fact is that FPV are releasing a Supercharged GT and HSV doesn't have a competing supercharged vehicle.

Why can't we just have everybody give some positive feedback for Ford/FPV for once? They are doing something most of us Ford fans have been dreaming of since the GT badge was resurrected, a supercharged GT worthy of the badge. Instead we get "HSV has a 470kw supercharged Clubsport for under 100k" (which THEY don't) as though it won't satisfy you unless it matches those power and price figures which is ludicrous.

I'll bet even the boys on the LS1 forums are saying more positive things about the possibility of a supercharged GT than here. There is way too much negativity in this place lately.

Well said, the Supercharged version is not even confirmed but already has some showing their obvious discomfort at having some competition, and they are from the same camp.

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burnz · 14-06-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Well said, the Supercharged version is not even confirmed but already has some showing their obvious discomfort at having some competition, and they are from the same camp.

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you mean the 6T guys are getting upset??

theboxmike · 14-06-2009, 11:30 PM

I like this very much if true

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schnoods · 14-06-2009, 11:58 PM

It will be a matter of time, when Holden will borrow the Corvette 6.2 supercharged 8.

It is a great thing for any buyer/lover of the V8 indeed. If both camps have a blown version that puts out a genuine massive number (around the 500+ mark) there will be beers all round and even if ford isnt on top (in terms of a couple of numbers), we can still safely say that it might be a vehicle that stock will rock.

Long live the Bent 8!

Joshvee · 15-06-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ST

You'd be pretty stupid to compare them both. Comparing factory with aftermarket is illogical and irrelevant, especially in terms of price and power. The fact is that FPV are releasing a Supercharged GT and HSV doesn't have a competing supercharged vehicle.

I'm not comparing them both but I'll bet good money that alot of Holden boys will. And so what if it's after market. It's still sold as a complete package, new with new warrenty. You wouldn't be stupid at all considering its sold new with the supercharger. It's not like buying a new car and then taking it to a tuner and getting a stage 1,2 or 3 tune and stuffing up ur warranty. The majority of ppl that buy a high performance car are not purists. I personally don't care if it is a Walkinshaw car. If I wanted the fastest Holden, that is what I'd get. And if I were to say, well my Holden is faster than your Ford, you'd say "comparing factory with aftermarket is illogical and irrelevant" I'd say "now your just making excuses" Technically, HSV and FPV aren't factory either. Are they? Arent they sent to their respective high performance branches and modified there? (I'm guessing this part coz I really don't know) And if I am wrong, then my argument in bold still applies.

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Well said, the Supercharged version is not even confirmed but already has some showing their obvious discomfort at having some competition, and they are from the same camp.

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Dude Im not upset that Ford may bring out a supercharged V8, I'm upset that someone recons it will make my new F6 redundant. they are 2 very different markets.

EgoFalcon · 15-06-2009, 02:41 AM

Your f6 isnt redundant at all and this build hasnt been confirmed yet but if it does get built I would expect that the f6 will get improvements aswell and mate, your f6 looks fabulous myself very jealous, and fuel prices might be where ford makes there profit from turbo 6 to v8.

I prefer the f6 to the gt's in my opinion.

...but I can't wait to see what figures this car can do...

AWD Chaser · 16-06-2009, 04:41 PM

Well, as far as unused TM's go, they could use either FPV GS (TM'ed same time as ECOBOOST) or GT-H (TM'ed same time as FORD KUGA)...

ltd · 17-06-2009, 10:08 AM

That is going to be one hell of a beast, look out HSV.

mcnews · 17-06-2009, 10:20 AM

A properly sorted blown set-up will be great. The installation in the latest Vette is very clever indeed, the way the charge is cooled etc. and if Ford can do something similar here that will be just brilliant.

I recently had the Ford GT Supercar to play which of course has a blower, actually right behind your ear and you can actually see it in the rear view mirror as you drive and tilt when you give it welly etc. lol. You can even see the blower belt etc. while in the car. It still doesn't seem as smart as the set-up in the latest ZR-1 Vette however, something like that in a homegrown Ford will be wicked. Let's hope they don't cut too many corners.

Whitey-AMG · 17-06-2009, 10:20 AM

I think too many people are expecting the results we see from the Kenne Belle and Yella terra aftermarket kits and the aftermarket tune results we have seen from members and TUNING shops on this FORUM and elsewhere.

In reality , anything that is Factory fitted from FORD / FPV will need to meet stringent EPA / ADR and Warranty requirements. I wouldn't be expecting anything too much.........I reckon it may even be a baby HARROP set up to give the BOSS some extra low down urge. FPV won't go overboard and enter into a badge war with HSV......They probably won't even breach the 320KW mark..........( It will be more about the hidden power......TORQUE )

mcnews · 17-06-2009, 10:25 AM

That will suit me fine. To be honest all this 400 rear wheel kilowatt at the tyres stuff borders on being completely pointless. Unless you have shares in a tyre company of course...

This will hopefully however allow Ford to get something like 320kw at the tyres and put an engine with some real bottom end urge in their V8 range so they have a V8 that can actually hold a candle to the F6 when it comes to real world driving performance.

bingoTE50 · 17-06-2009, 10:32 AM

besides the obvious power,hopefully the handling is a another step ahead.I have not driven a FG GT ,but my BF2 GT is a bit of a disappointment compared to how my TE50 handled.The BF is a good cruiser but the TE was a sharper tool out of the box.
With the alloy block ,taking some weight out of the front would help.

seXCmont · 17-06-2009, 10:36 AM

as long as it goes down the strip quicker than the HSV it doesn't matter bout the power lol

mcnews · 17-06-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by seXCmont

as long as it goes down the strip quicker than the HSV it doesn't matter bout the power lol

The people that only care about that will always drive a HSV anyway.

Whitey-AMG · 17-06-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bingoTE50

besides the obvious power,hopefully the handling is a another step ahead.I have not driven a FG GT ,but my BF2 GT is a bit of a disappointment compared to how my TE50 handled.The BF is a good cruiser but the TE was a sharper tool out of the box.
With the alloy block ,taking some weight out of the front would help.

LOL........Off topic ........but whack on a 27 mm FRONT swaybar on the BF and Bob's your uncle.........Sharp as you want.

JAYBA · 17-06-2009, 11:02 AM

now we v8 owners can go to the tune shop and pick up 50rwkw with tune only... this wont make the f6 redundant but will leave no reason to buy the f6.

I just hope its mass produced and not a limited number or special $100000 deal.
In other words i hope its under $80000 new.

mcnews · 17-06-2009, 11:05 AM

You are right, it it is as smooth as punchy down low as the F6 and as fuel efficient then the market for the F6 will be killed pretty much stone dead. The current market for the F6 grew out of people not happy with the performance of the 8, so if the stock blower install does that reliably then yes the F6 may as well be discontinued. And the XR6T engine would then be best used in cheaper larger volume cars.