Cruise Snobs

[ZcAmbo]

I used to cruse chappel st every friday and sat night in my cobra meet alot of people down there in there cars we would stop have a chat made alot of friends there. Went down there about a month ago waved at a few nice cars they just drove past with there nose in the air.
On the other hand im not really into new cars but thats just me but i respect the time and effort that the owner has put into there car as for hot rodders being old clunkers alot of you who attend the ford forum drags and other drag meets will know my boss's old clunker that seems to kick some of the late model cars butts next time your being passed by a model t ford you can say wow that old clunker goes pretty well

[CODSASR]

My step dads best mate finished his '28 roadster a few years ago and he has to trailer it to any show he takes it too obviously some bogans dont care why its trailerd because every time we pull it off the trailer there always happen to be the old "oh what a trailer queen" we dont respond. No one really comes near you for the rest of the show............


Guessing there are a few members here who would have thought the same thing at this point but the reason the car is trailerd is his wife had a stroke and can not sit in the roadster for more then 10 mins at a time and she is there in her wheelchair next to the trailer as they have a whinge

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

i rocked up at a GT Nationals with ripped seats, rust and a chrome aircleaner... dilligaf...

Ive seen first hand what some GT owners are like....

[Zero_PSI]

I get it all the time. I do rock up to imPort cruises in a ford though.

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Ive seen first hand what some GT owners are like....

I'm a GT owner and I know exactly what you mean, that's why I would never join a GT club.

[04redxr8]

Originally Posted by Peuty

That was the reason I didn't renew my membership with a certain local club here in Brisbane.

So yes OP, I know what you mean.

+1 here. Thought it was just me, but saw the same happen to other members.

[SSD-85]

I may be strictly a Ford man, and flatly refuse to buy anything else with my hard earned cash despite how much better it might be, but Im not one to knock someone of their taste in cars. Whilst I may not understand someones liking to a particular car, thats no excuse for me to crucify them for it.
I instead am happy to ask about their car and their love for it so I can at least know their point of view. It doesnt matter if youre only interested in X brand of car, IMO you can always find common ground with someone if youre nice enough

Unless of course they have the social skills of a cut snake. That being the case, I just walk away and leave them to their own ends.

[bingoTE50]

I admire anyone who puts the time and effort to present a car at any event in its best condition.What I drive should not enter in to it .If people are not prepared to engage the punters at a car display ,don't display ....

[Stefan]

This is just another AFF whinge!

People generally go to events for a particular model to mix with owners of the same type of car. That is why the events are being held.

No point me rocking up to a late model small euro ford event being with by some 20 year olds and rocking up in my XY wanting attention.

But nothing like another thread whinging about GT clubs....

[Ptbl]

Originally Posted by FG50T

Hahaha I like this thread. The best was when I went with my mate who owned a very well modified S15. Every one saw me jump out of the passenger seat in my HSV jacket. You can guess what 95% of the nationality was there. We went around and did the meet and greet, could only get one guy there to speak to me who used to own a Monaro. I got disgusted looks from everybody there...rooftop car park meet ffs...

Lol haha love that comment next time rock up to a event with all sorts of car makes logos thrown over the jacket, even pepsi n cola won't hurt surely youd get a couple of interesting chats.. ( i know id be intrested haa) ill be like this dude must have a sense of humour Or they might just think ur a total weirdo. Haha

[2011G6E]

It happens, sometimes with even more illogical reasoning, in the world of motorcycles as well. But at least with motorbikes, usually, it's good-natured ribbing about what bike someone else is riding. Stuff like someone turning up on a Ducati and someone says "So...not worried it might rain today and stuff the electrics...?", or things like that. Outright hostility is rare.

We used to be members of a club that welcomed all makes and sizes and types of bike. We'd have a yearly bike show and this too welcomed all sorts of bikes.

However, there was another "classic" bike club that was mostly old English and European bikes. They had a genuine hatred of Japanese bikes, to the extent that you could go on one of thier rallies with an old Japanese bike (which anyone else would call a classic), but you weren't eligible for any trophies.
I have also seen magazines from here and overseas dealing with classic bikes that tell of this dislike of Japanese stuff...normally, if a bike is over 30 years old, it's a "classic"...it's elegible for club rego just like a car of that age, but there have been ernest debates on whether a Japanese bike can be considered a "classic" at all, no matter how rare or important it is to the history of motorcycling, as if a bike produced on a mass production line in Japan is somehow less important than a bike produced on a similar mass production line in England or Italy.

I own two Jap bikes and an Italian one, and love them all. If it's got as motor and two wheels, I like it...some more than others, bit I like them all. Most motorcyclists have thier favorites (In particular I like two strokes and the Kawasaki brand, even though my main ride now is a Suzuki GSX-1400), but most riders can appreciate anything.

[aussie muscle]

i've heard it in bike enthusiast circles they exclude others based on what they ride. i had a friend convey a story that the BMW bikers didn't want him to park his jap bike near their group (like it matters). i'd imagine it's the same 'elitism' that takes over some car groups.

[302 XC]

This is the main reason why i wont join the local car club
Its a general car club,but run by people who have holdens
The bloke who runs the club is an absolute idiot,more a look at me man
His cars are the bees knees (so he thinks)
Noone has better, seen better or will have better
This is his total attitude towards the club

Funny thing is ,ive seen better cars in the nats carpark

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

i've heard it in bike enthusiast circles they exclude others based on what they ride. i had a friend convey a story that the BMW bikers didn't want him to park his jap bike near their group (like it matters). i'd imagine it's the same 'elitism' that takes over some car groups.

Oh yes, BMW riders are sometimes a bit "special"...but I can't talk as I used to ride a BMW R65 myself... . You see it most amongst Harley riders, and to a lesser extent and for different reasons amongst BMW riders.

Getting back to cars, we used to own a 1971 Cortina GT, and went to a GT show (Falcons). We of course parked outside, but snaffled a park right by the entrance. Our car drew a bit of attention, as the colors it had and the shape of that model made it look a bit like a "miniature XY GT". A mate of mine with an XY GT said he heard a few comments like "why would you spend the money on something like that?", and "What's he trying to make it look like?", obviously not knowing it was a factory original. Basically, nothing except GT Falcons existed (a perfectly understandable outlook... ) but why ignore other, probably rarer now, vehicles made by your same beloved blue oval?
I find XY GT's extremely interesting...but I also like every other GT, GS, John Goss, Cortina GT, RS2000 Escort, Rally Pack Falcon or Cortina, whatever...if the manufacturer saw fit to bless us with interesting option packages, why not broaden your horizons and take a bit of interest in them?

I'd lay good money on a bet that you've seen way more XY GT's than you have of one of these...

[302 XC]

Id buy another MK2 cortina in a heartbeat
Had one years ago a 2 door
For a four , gee it didnt let much go without a fight
Went like the preverbial of a shovel

[XR6TCraig]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Oh yes, BMW riders are sometimes a bit "special"...but I can't talk as I used to ride a BMW R65 myself... . You see it most amongst Harley riders

Yes and among the Harley riders the gay pirates are the worst.

I love rounding up a heap of them and passing them like they are standing still.

[XRtowcar]

Been in car clubs for over twenty years and find you have to fit into the clique to be accepted.
I was ignored for having an BA XR6 by guys that owned AU XR8's!
Same brand and all.
More likely they just aren't that friendly.

[CODSASR]

I find its like being at school all over again you are eaither in the cool group who are pritty much sheep or you are a outsider who does things differently

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by CODSASR

I find its like being at school all over again you are eaither in the cool group who are pritty much sheep or you are a outsider who does things differently

Well said. Pretty much spot-on actually.
You expect a bit of one-eyed fanatisism in a one-make club such as a Ford GT club, or a Holden Monaro club, but there are clubs and groups which are made up of, simply, "car enthusiasts", and if we joined a club again that'd be what we'd look for.

[Kingsley]

Originally Posted by Stefan

This is just another AFF whinge!

People generally go to events for a particular model to mix with owners of the same type of car. That is why the events are being held.

No point me rocking up to a late model small euro ford event being with by some 20 year olds and rocking up in my XY wanting attention.

But nothing like another thread whinging about GT clubs....

There appears to be some commonality of attitude associated with GT Clubs in particular, regardless of what state their in. I'm positive there are some really good people associated within those clubs, but for the most part members are often refferenced as arrogant, aloof, and resistent to anyone or anything that maybe of more value or rarity than of their own car, or who in general **** on anyone who they feel are below their or their cars standards. It's like they've lost the enjoyment of owning their vehicle, or to cruise with mates with a common interest in cars has instead been replaced by a jealously scathing attitude of heirachy based on vehicle rarity and originality. It's the one club I repeatedly see that has this stigma permanently attached.
The only GT Club run I ever went on was in the mid 80's. The XA/XB boy's were pretty good value, but I never felt more unwelcome other than the time I had to explain to my strictly Catholic in-law's how their unwed daughter got pregnant. I don't knbow, but maybe the GT Clubs like having this public image among their peers???

[auxr]

Originally Posted by CODSASR

I find its like being at school all over again you are eaither in the cool group who are pritty much sheep or you are a outsider who does things differently

That sums it up fairly well - I find car clubs are great, but if members don't go out of their way to make it a friendly place or are not friendly to outsiders then it can become a drag.

At most of our meets there are only one type of vehicle that is being shown.

I haven't had any trouble with other members of other car clubs, but people come in all different sizes and personalities - saying that though I wouldn't rock up to an all Ford day with all of my mates wearing Holden shirt's - likewise if I attended a Holden meet I would do the same and not wear my Ford gear - IMO it shows a bit of respect, no need to possibly antagonise and most people will have a chat.

[mrbaxr6t]

I have never joined a car club and I most likely never will, its not worth the inevitable poo pooing

[auxr]

Originally Posted by BluFGXR6

There appears to be some commonality of attitude associated with GT Clubs in particular, regardless of what state their in. I'm positive there are some really good people associated within those clubs, but for the most part members are often refferenced as arrogant, aloof, and resistent to anyone or anything that maybe of more value or rarity than of their own car, or who in general **** on anyone who they feel are below their or their cars standards. It's like they've lost the enjoyment of owning their vehicle, or to cruise with mates with a common interest in cars has instead been replaced by a jealously scathing attitude of heirachy based on vehicle rarity and originality. It's the one club I repeatedly see that has this stigma permanently attached.
The only GT Club run I ever went on was in the mid 80's. The XA/XB boy's were pretty good value, but I never felt more unwelcome other than the time I had to explain to my strictly Catholic in-law's how their unwed daughter got pregnant. I don't knbow, but maybe the GT Clubs like having this public image among their peers???

And leteth the war of the clubs begin - waseth an interesting thread whilst iteth remained pure.

[XR6_661]

'sif associate with GT scum.

N/A BA Series I XR6s or you're dead to me. Don't even look at me!

[XR6TCraig]

Originally Posted by mrbaxr6t

I have never joined a car club and I most likely never will, its not worth the inevitable poo pooing

Same.

I actually attended a meeting of a car club that was in it's infancy stages 4 or 5 years ago. I was basically dragged along by an aquaintence who is now quite high up in the club, to make up the numbers.

While it could have been good to get in on the ground floor, I found that other than the type of car I owned, I had little in common with the other people in the room, so I couldn't see the point. Call me anti social but why hang around with a group of people you dont know, have little in common with and don't enjoy speding time with?

It was probably a good thing, because I know that soon after there was a fair bit of infighting, a power struggle, people leaving because of the crap going on and basically one or two doing all the work because no one wanted the responsibility, while decisions were being made for many by one or two, that did not neccesarily go with what the club was about or what the majority of members wanted. Basically a ***** fight!

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by BluFGXR6

There appears to be some commonality of attitude associated with GT Clubs in particular, regardless of what state their in. I'm positive there are some really good people associated within those clubs, but for the most part members are often refferenced as arrogant, aloof, and resistent to anyone or anything that maybe of more value or rarity than of their own car, or who in general **** on anyone who they feel are below their or their cars standards. It's like they've lost the enjoyment of owning their vehicle, or to cruise with mates with a common interest in cars has instead been replaced by a jealously scathing attitude of heirachy based on vehicle rarity and originality. It's the one club I repeatedly see that has this stigma permanently attached.
The only GT Club run I ever went on was in the mid 80's. The XA/XB boy's were pretty good value, but I never felt more unwelcome other than the time I had to explain to my strictly Catholic in-law's how their unwed daughter got pregnant. I don't knbow, but maybe the GT Clubs like having this public image among their peers???

Well said and pretty well spot on, but I have met a few that are very nice people and the current president of Qld is a top bloke.

[XBROO]

Originally Posted by Craiginmackay

Same.

I actually attended a meeting of a car club that was in it's infancy stages 4 or 5 years ago. I was basically dragged along by an aquaintence who is now quite high up in the club, to make up the numbers.

While it could have been good to get in on the ground floor, I found that other than the type of car I owned, I had little in common with the other people in the room, so I couldn't see the point. Call me anti social but why hang around with a group of people you dont know, have little in common with and don't enjoy speding time with?

It was probably a good thing, because I know that soon after there was a fair bit of infighting, a power struggle, people leaving because of the crap going on and basically one or two doing all the work because no one wanted the responsibility, while decisions were being made for many by one or two, that did not neccesarily go with what the club was about or what the majority of members wanted. Basically a ***** fight!

That's one of the things we keep out of our club is bullsh!t politics and power struggles. That's why membership is only granted if they have friends or family already in the club. We are proberly more of a social club then a car club, as we are very family orientated. And we don't car what they drive as long as they have fun.

[GT450]

Can genuinely understand peoples feelings about this. I like Fords young and old, 4,6 and 8 cylinders and also enjoy those made in foreign parts too.

I am happy to admire a well looked after car of any brand and enjoy talking to the owners, but when i finally got back in to a GT in the BA series i went for a couple of drives with the club i thought i'd like to be in. Well i still have a couple of friends from those drives, some on this forum but didn't join.

Too many elitists , those who knew everything and would denigrate anyone who dared argue a different point of view.I was asked on several occasions by another club with the same brand but a wider social viewpoint to join but my initial social gatherings with what is considered to be the biggest one for my vehicle was more than enough for me to never want to associate with them , or car clubs again. I shall stick to my small network of like minded friends ,go for the odd drive with them and sprout the invariable drivel we like just cause i can.
I would say that most on this forum are good guys and gals and will always help if they can and it's always appreciated . I can not however say this about some car clubs. My experience.

GT450

[The Yeti]

I just turn up I'm driving a bog stock XP wagon and I attend mostly Hot Rod events, some people are happy to talk others not so much no sence getting upset about it just keep walking and talk to some one else

[Donny]

Originally Posted by XBROO

Look I have a few classic cars and I'll always talk to anyone if I have the time. But (I might get flamed for this) I'm not really interested in new cars I have a BA XR6 and yes it's a nice car to drive. But it the shopping trolley and the family get around car. I do like the look of some of the new cars but you can see them anywhere like any carpark or out side schools waiting to pick up there kids. And I know that they are faster and out handle any of the old cars I got in the shed but they just don't do it for me. Maybe in another 20 odd years they might. But I would never be rude to anybody that has a passion for their car, because when I was young my hardtop was pretty common and I still loved it. And I still love it now..

This pretty well summs up me aswell. I will happily talk to anyone on an equal footing about the cars, irrespective of what they own.
But when I go out for a cruise or a car show, I look/pay attention to only the stuff that Im interested in and walk past the rest..

Thats why I dont go out to any of the organised events around here, most people are in modern cars, with 1 or 2 older ones at the most. I see modern cars every day Im on the road...

Iv cruised the spit plenty of times in my XYGT. I dont stop to chat to anyone an if I do stop for a stretch of the legs, I park no where near all the ricer stuff that frequents the place. Iv had plenty of them take pics of the car as I drove by. I stop for them if I can so they can get the shot etc.. If they wave to me or compliment the car, I always acknoledge that too.
I have no interest in ricer cars at all, but if any of their owners walked over to chat to me or look the car over, then Id always chat back, no worries.. But Id not walk over there an look at their stuff as its not my thing..

I mainly only attend events where a lot of older GT's will turn up.. Thats the cars I like to look at, and I know a lot of the cars owners and its good to catch up and chat with them, and for me first, its more about the catching up with like minded owners I know and the older cars then come second..