So I received a letter from the EPA... - Page 2

MGGT RAA · 19-03-2011, 11:16 AM

Did you have a grandpa moment?

eeeeeepaaa EEEEEEEPAAA!!

Streets · 19-03-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AUIIPURSUIT

10k fine for no cat

RAPID_BA · 19-03-2011, 01:20 PM

How do motorbikes get away with being so loud?

The loudest street car wouldnt come close to many of the bikes getting around

FGII-XR6 · 19-03-2011, 01:35 PM

different limits apply to bikes

MexicanBatman · 19-03-2011, 01:48 PM

I was told by a bike cop, they rarely target bikes because it's usually a 20min can swap pass the test then back to loud, where as a car that fails usually gets a new muffler etc... And the owners don't swap straight back, as the change usually costs the car owner money and is more permanent.

It used to take me 10min to change the slip ons on my Harley, so if I got epa'd no biggie, stock pipes on and the tester is at the end of my street, go there pay the $25 ride home and swap back over

b0son · 19-03-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MexicanBatman

I was told by a bike cop, they rarely target bikes because it's usually a 20min can swap pass the test then back to loud

That's why they should have a mobile test kit. On the spot fines.

I dont begrudge people having fun with their bikes, but its pretty obvious by the way some harley riders apply the throttle, they're trying to create noise... and they seem to love doing it at 3am in quiet back streets.

MexicanBatman · 19-03-2011, 03:59 PM

I still do It and I ride a vespa now lol

Same as a Harley really but better

AUIIPURSUIT · 19-03-2011, 05:46 PM

also have heard some harley owners even though their bike was only rebuilt in the past few years, have an original block from back in the day when their wasnt any sound limitations on motorbikes.

Im not sure of the accuracy of that statement.

ThaFlash · 19-03-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cub

Care to share?

happy to....

had an xbcoupe only 302c, when i received the letter saying a member of the public found my exhaust system too loud, i checked the time and date and found it was a Sunday arvo.

i based my letter on that, stating i was an enthusiast and i only drive the car on Sundays, took a picture of my exhaust as it was only a single system and one of the engine bay highlighting no mods (extractors) and an overall picture of the car showing it in stock form and only done 53,000 miles since 1974. i went on to say i am happy to comply with the epa but as you can see by my photos it will be waste of time.

anyway sometime later i received a letter of withdrawal or similar and that was that.

however i suspect all the rubbish i wrote in the letter was irrelevant and just like everything else, the people that issue these kind of things have a degree of discretion that they can use, and because of that it pays to write a letter, but be warned if it does not go your way it will be used against you in a court of law.

GOOD LUCK!

sudszy · 20-03-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Get a piece of your exhaust cut and flanged. Then get a bit made up for that section with small pipes and big muffler.

Look for a stock ba i6 muffler and plumb it into your system with small pipes. Should shut it up.

When you pass test, unbolt it and replace with the section of yohr system flanged back in. Keep the small setup for next time

If you pass do they pay you for nuisance time?

Why are people here allowed to give advice on how to beat the law, perform illegal mods?

dansedgli · 20-03-2011, 05:30 PM

Wont somebody think of the children.

AUIIPURSUIT · 20-03-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sudszy

Why are people here allowed to give advice on how to beat the law, perform illegal mods?

its not an illegal mod.. its a passable mod.. sure its dicking around the lines, but its no different to changing the exhaust completely twice.

Deaks · 20-03-2011, 06:56 PM

I've had my previous car (Subaru Legacy GT wagon) EPA'd three times.

First time, i complied, stock exhaust back on. Easy.

Second time, a little more peeved but passed.

Third time was after being pulled over by the plod, and me getting the shits after the police man pulled me over for being in the T2 lane on the Eastern with one person in the car. I got the shits because there was three peoples in the car, just they were asleep. Guess he didnt like my attitude. So he EPA'd my car. So i wrote a nice letter to the commission, and what do you know, EPA notice rescinded.

Personally, i say fight whatever you can. They work on the reasoning that not everyone will argue their case. Case in point, the stupid Speed camera at Wellington Rd on Eastlink.

SirHenry · 20-03-2011, 09:23 PM

What would happen if one of our Finest's vehicle's got dobbed would they still have to take the squad car in?

Being in Qld, I just find this law a wee bit strange 'cause anyone could be waste government time and money dobbing anyone in because blah blah annoyed them over their dog or something what not....

I just think this law is a bit a silly and can be abused very easily forget about the dob in line get the main roads crews out on the streets doing random inspections.

buggo · 20-03-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SirHenry

What would happen if one of our Finest's vehicle's got dobbed would they still have to take the squad car in?

Doubt they'd take in the squad car, it'll have stock exhaust.

SirHenry · 20-03-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by buggo_gt

Doubt they'd take in the squad car, it'll have stock exhaust.

it'd be damn funny unless in there's an exemption in the law or something.

sudszy · 20-03-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AUIIPURSUIT

its not an illegal mod.. its a passable mod.. sure its dicking around the lines, but its no different to changing the exhaust completely twice.

What are you talking about?, every 2nd post here is about bolting the old exhaust or doing minimal mods so the thing will meet the test and then returning it to illegal again?

ILLaViTaR · 20-03-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sudszy

Why are people here allowed to give advice on how to beat the law, perform illegal mods?

Shutup.

Because beating the law is not illegal, breaking the law is.

Sick of everyone wanting to be a cop/nazi on this forum, there's one of you in every thread nowadays, if you disagree don't say anything, because you're jsut making a fool of yourself, if you want to follow the ten commandments macca's is hiring more security guards.
You're not a mod, report it (if it's even a problem) and move on.

OLDFORDNUT · 20-03-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sudszy

What are you talking about?, every 2nd post here is about bolting the old exhaust or doing minimal mods so the thing will meet the test and then returning it to illegal again?

STIFF,
if you dont like it then dont keep reading it,your free to look at any page or story you like ,go stir the pot somewhere else,by the way,even some cops hate the rediculous new laws we have to endure these last 10 years or so.

Auslandau · 20-03-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sudszy

What are you talking about?, every 2nd post here is about bolting the old exhaust or doing minimal mods so the thing will meet the test and then returning it to illegal again?

Changing the exhaust to stock is illegal? What happens after the test it is up to the person if they want to risk it again but not mine or anyone else's job to monitor this on a Forum, unless of course its a recommendation for an obvious illegal activity. Actually ..... the modified exhaust might have passed the test but to play it safe, it was swapped to the standard? So is it illegal to put the other untested one back on? Might never get EPA'ed again?

**Full Noise** · 20-03-2011, 11:08 PM

A mate of mine got a love letter from the EPA last January. A copper from Nagambie got his plate when driving towards him in the 80 k zone near the cemetery.

Kenworth T604, new mufflers on a C15 Cat.

He took it to a testing place in Preston and guess what? It passed.

Thanks Mr Plod for wasting everyone’s time.

Road Games · 20-03-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

Changing the exhaust to stock is illegal? What happens after the test it is up to the person if they want to risk it again but not mine or anyone else's job to monitor this on a Forum, unless of course its a recommendation for an obvious illegal activity. Actually ..... the modified exhaust might have passed the test but to play it safe, it was swapped to the standard? So is it illegal to put the other untested one back on? Might never get EPA'ed again?

Do you guys know about the bung in the turbo territories ?

Well simply apply the same practice , in your case mate block off one of your pipes with gasket material and have two holes drilled into it and bolted for security.. OR do it to BOTH pipes with an X cut in the centre of each flange gasket material.. gasses will be slowed and the sound much reduced.

Daz.

**Full Noise** · 20-03-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DAZZLER351

Do you guys know about the bung in the turbo territories ?

I’d be careful posting info like that. Sudszy might dob you in to the feds.

**Polyal** · 21-03-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

A mate of mine got a love letter from the EPA last January. A copper from Nagambie got his plate when driving towards him in the 80 k zone near the cemetery.

Kenworth T604, new mufflers on a C15 Cat.

He took it to a testing place in Preston and guess what? It passed.

Thanks Mr Plod for wasting everyone’s time.

Thats the BS isnt it...you should be able to have some kind of claim atleast for lost earning while going through the process.

I know everyone changes back to stock, then modded again but still, the fact you can dob in willy nilly is a joke. Same goes for the cigarette butt thing..I dont smoke but unless I see someone do it in person Im not about to dob them in.

Its as if the laws are put in place so a citizen becomes a law enforcer..turning us against each other..crazy.

**russellw** · 21-03-2011, 08:49 AM

I think this thread has run along far enough. Nothing wrong with the subject matter but when people respond to each other the way some in this thread have then it has gone too far.

Russ