Holden called me...

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by Brazen

With rear parking sensors and rear-view camera, some of these large cars are quite easy to live with.

With a family we tried the one large car and one small car approach. I traded in the small car 7 months later ha. But we live in the sticks.

Were you looking at a Focus sedan or hatch?

Sedan.

[G6E Turbo 2]

The holden dealer wont have long to wait to improve sales , Holden have a SALE every month

[blueoval]

I think the word 'SALE' is a ploy just to get gullible people in the door. I've been caught out with this before only to be conned into buying something that actually isn't on sale. Sorry to go OT.

+1 for the Mondeo. Just for the better resale I reckon. Just don't be forced into making a rash decision. You are in the box seat johnny. let them all fight for your business. Again, it's a buyers market. If one won't come to the party, others maybe prepared to do so.

[mik]

there must be some desperate holden dealers out there , i`ve seen 2 or 3 dealers over the last couple of months offering 5 year warranty on new cars,
for big cars company`s and dealers might have to step up to the plate and put big warranty`s and incentives if they want to keep a share of the market.

[Dr Smith]

If Holden called me I'd say "sorry, I'm on the Do not call register https://www.donotcall.gov.au/

[Miss_XR6]

Worked into a dealership the week of xmas the car had just come in and was for sale......... Walked out after they gave me a stupid trade in price and next thing they were doing everything to get me the price I wanted.

They had hardly sold any vechiles and are still doing it very tough and basically giving away cars just to get business.

The ford and holden up the road from me have the same cars there for weeks and i hardly seen any buyers walking around the yards

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Rodge

The main things that seprate Falcon and Commordore IMHO is that Ford's offer a far better and more torquey inline six and a world class gearbox in the ZF which is vastly better than any gearbox Holden offer.

I think many people forget how fortunate they are to have the legendary reliability of the inline six and the ZF gearbox. Now we have the eco lpi and ecoboost to chose from too. The only reason I can see to buy a Commordore is price or getting a V8 at a certain price point, (the SS), in both cases you get what you pay for.

I reckon the Mondeo Ecoboost would be a good option for the Op but predict wifey will "know" better.

you haven't driven a VE have you??

and whats wrong with your FG thread doesen't inspire confidance either...


johnny you still havent tryed the diesel's in both brands have you??
you wont regret it!!

[Bossxr8]

Of course the Holden dealer is desperate, they have thousands upon thousands of unsold Commodores lining the grass all over the country.

Typical Holden form, build the numbers and worry about selling them later, even if you have to slash the crap out of the price. Its even funnier when the Holden CEO was on record recently in an interview saying they would no longer rely on massive discounts to sell Commodores. How many days did that last?

Ford have the opposite problem at the moment, lacking stock of just about everything.

[BadMax]

Dude, you're not ready to buy a car! If you're watching the economy that closely you can't afford that 35k car add to that your missus hasn't got an idea of what she wants in her car and you're shopping and almost bought a Focus, now considering a Commodore...

The 3lt Sidi is a peice of poo and isn't good on fuel. Why would you shop for a small car, then argue the point of a large car beig better value? Why because you get more steel that you don't need?

Seriously, just go buy an Aurion. 200kw motor, awesome on fuel, in between a focus and commodore in size and better build quality than the commonwhore.

Better still, give her a budget, let her buy what she wants...we all know what you pick will be wrong.

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by BadMax

Dude, you're not ready to buy a car! If you're watching the economy that closely you can't afford that 35k car add to that your missus hasn't got an idea of what she wants in her car and you're shopping and almost bought a Focus, now considering a Commodore...

The 3lt Sidi is a peice of poo and isn't good on fuel. Why would you shop for a small car, then argue the point of a large car beig better value? Why because you get more steel that you don't need?

Seriously, just go buy an Aurion. 200kw motor, awesome on fuel, in between a focus and commodore in size and better build quality than the commonwhore.

Better still, give her a budget, let her buy what she wants...we all know what you pick will be wrong.

Dude, we knew what we wanted but the supplier didn't have the product.

What we want - small to medium sedan with leather trim, satnav, climate control, electric windows & seats, premium sound system, keyless entry & start, 6 speed auto, smooth & quiet ride, good turning circle, maybe a sunroof.

What Holden had - Cruze SRVi with full leather, Satnav, electric windows, keyless entry & start, premium sound, 6 speed auto, very quiet & a nice ride, good turning circle.

Ford had 2 options that we looked at; Sport & Titanium.
Focus Sport - Satnav, climate control, Premium audio, electric windows, 6 speed manual/auto, quiet & a nice ride, good turning circle.

Focus Titanium - same as Sport with addition of partial leather, Satnav, electric seats, keyless start, sunroof. And 18in wheels that made the ride too firm, noisy tyres & a poor turning circle of 12.2m.

We were ready to buy the Focus Titanium, if we could get the Sport wheels & turning circle. The dealer made a call to Ford & was told that it can't be done.

I will be buying a car soon, and I will tell the dealers that I'm watching the economy, and we will get a good deal, but sadly it will not be a Ford.

The Commodore is just something that came out of left field, chances of us buying it is almost none.

[Fiesta God]

Not sure if this matters depending on your purchasing/finance arrangements ... but you are going to cop a massive whack in depreciation if you buy a new Commodore. Especially a tarted-up base model with the 3L engine.


A Focus/Mondeo/Cruze will depreciate more slowly, and your re-sale relative to purchase price in 3-5 years should be a lot better

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by Fiesta God

Not sure if this matters depending on your purchasing/finance arrangements ... but you are going to cop a massive whack in depreciation if you buy a new Commodore. Especially a tarted-up base model with the 3L engine.


A Focus/Mondeo/Cruze will depreciate more slowly, and your re-sale relative to purchase price in 3-5 years should be a lot better

Depends on how much you purchase the car for

[sprint347dave]

so the car is going to be for the wife,,and she likes the next doors neighbours holden ,,,,get a new wife mate,,,one who already owns and drives a ford

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by sprint347dave

so the car is going to be for the wife,,and she likes the next doors neighbours holden ,,,,get a new wife mate,,,one who already owns and drives a ford

Maybe when Ford work out if there Sport is their sport model, or if it's the Titanium.

I'm lost as to how they could sell the 'premium' model with a firmer and sportier feel, than the Sport model.

If my wife is smart enough to realise this, I must have a winner.

[martyk54]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

We did Focus Sport $30k, its features, quality and equipment far exceeds the Commodore and Falcon and Focus is European built.

Ah... no it isn't. As far as I'm aware the only Focus in recent times shipped directly from Europe was the old XR5 / ST. Not that 'European built' means a thing, just ask some people who have owned such cars.

Focus is a fantastic package all the same, all current models are built in Thailand.

[graham_h]

Why not a mazda 6 ?

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

We did Focus Sport $30k, its features, quality and equipment far exceeds the Commodore and Falcon and Focus is European built.

European built just means it's no fun to work on therefore more expensive and costs a lot for parts

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by graham_h

Why not a mazda 6 ?

Received the brochure yesterday, looking at it now.

[In Focus]

Originally Posted by martyk54

Ah... no it isn't. As far as I'm aware the only Focus in recent times shipped directly from Europe was the old XR5 / ST. Not that 'European built' means a thing, just ask some people who have owned such cars.

Focus is a fantastic package all the same, all current models are built in Thailand.

Nope. Current LW Focus models are sourced from Europe. Production is expected to switch to Thailand some time this year. Then, hopefully, the supply restriction will ease, and Ford can sell bucket-loads of them.

[Uncle Niceguy]

how about the diesel mazda 3? quiet powerful and has everything you want except leather and they retail for below 30 grand.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by G6E Turbo 2

The holden dealer wont have long to wait to improve sales , Holden have a SALE every month

...they do actually bother to advertise the hell out of the Commodore though don't they...unlike certain other large Australian sedan manufacturers who shall remain nameless and who seem to think that in todays competitive economy they can still rely on badge-blind buyers and word of mouth or smoke signals or something...

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by martyk54

Ah... no it isn't. As far as I'm aware the only Focus in recent times shipped directly from Europe was the old XR5 / ST. Not that 'European built' means a thing, just ask some people who have owned such cars.

.

Build tag says in built in Germany...
http://www.caradvice.com.au/130859/f...cus-review-lw/

Originally Posted by tezxr8man

European built just means it's no fun to work on therefore more expensive and costs a lot for parts

For us its a bonus a European build, either way we always support the badge..

Originally Posted by In Focus

Nope. Current LW Focus models are sourced from Europe. Production is expected to switch to Thailand some time this year. Then, hopefully, the supply restriction will ease, and Ford can sell bucket-loads of them.

Supply has been issue for the titanium and sport since release sales are up 28% on the Focus and this is before it knocked off the GTI Golf as Drive car of the year..

[Franco Cozzo]

Has the OP looked at the Skoda Octavia?

http://skoda.com.au/octavia/

[BadMax]

Sound like a Mazda 3 or 6 will suit you. I'm, um a little wierded out by the turning cirlce as being on the tick box. Do you live in a mini suburb or something?

[Rodge]

Badmax: Better still, give her a budget, let her buy what she wants...we all know what you pick will be wrong.

Best advice on this thread by a country mile.

[eb2fairmont]

Drove a VE omega yesterday for the first time. Its not a bad bit of kit, but the hideous interior quaility (fit and finish isn't up to my golf) and the lack of balls from the 3.0 put me off.

The 3.0 goes okay off the line, but needs revs to do it. Not like my old XF ute with cam!

[music189]

why not wait for the ECO boost Falcon? good turning circle, good economy,cheap service costs etc etc

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by johnydep

Called me back; clerical error price is 32499 with options, drive away.

Ha Ha. Love it! Sorry, I was holding my rrp card upside down. It's heaps cheaper now. Please come back :(

[Shonky.]

Ford dealership out at Beaudesert was doing brand new auto xr6 turbos for $38k da. Had black, edge and nitro but were down to nitro when I last checked.
Such good buys out there atm!