All New Edge Revealed - The Territory's Replacement

[Poetic Justice]

Possibly not all that bad though, Jeep seem to sell a fair few Grand Cherokee's without a 7 seat option...

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by SCUD

Possibly not all that bad though, Jeep seem to sell a fair few Grand Cherokee's without a 7 seat option...

True..but that car is pretty good value. Point taken.

Originally Posted by SCUD

Renaming Escape Kuga is proof they are okay with changing vehicle names.

Again good point, and Kuga is a shocker of a name considering the demographic.

[Vesper Martini]

I don't mind the look of it, but it certainly looks smaller than Territory.
Sadly I don't think there will be another road based SUV with that amount of internal space!

[dogger]

Focus on steroids!

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by SCUD

Renaming Escape Kuga is proof they are okay with changing vehicle names.

once the V6 was deleted, the sales figures took a dive. There's no way a 'new' Escape would have recovered those numbers (although I'm not sure Kuga has either )

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Raptor

It's hard to tell by the pics but you'd have to assume it's bigger than the Kuga, which really should be called the Escape.

Yep the Escape/Kuga is based on the Focus, whereas the Edge is based on the Fusion. You can sit in the Edge without your knees hitting the dash or the sides of the footwells, there is also a decent amount of legroom in the back.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by simon varley

no indication in that report that Edge will be RHD.

Yeah but Ford has said there will be eleven models here in 2017.
The only obvious one missing is the Edge.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Yeah but Ford has said there will be eleven models here in 2017.
The only obvious one missing is the Edge.

S-max?

[Crazy Dazz]

As the Old El Paso ad says "por qué no los dos?"

The upcoming new versions of the Edge, Explorer, Mondeo/Fusion, Galaxy, (and Taurus) will ALL be based on the CD4 platform.

The advantage of not building them ourselves, combined with a global platform, is that FA can import relatively small numbers of existing models profitably. There are of course costs involved in marketing (haha) parts and servicing, but given the shared components that will be reduced.
I haven't seen pictures of both new models side by side, but given the similarities its possible that for Australia they will be co-branded.

The kicker however will be the availability of a diesel model, which will likely depend on production and market locality. If they're built in Spain or Thailand (for European or Asian Markets,) dropping in the PSA derived Duratorq will be easy (as for the Kuga) but even the biggest Duratorq from the Mondeo would be barely adequate in an Edge and laughable in an Explorer.
Seppos don't seem to like Diesels, so its unlikely we'd get one form there.

[XR Martin]

Current Kluger doesnt have diesel either, but I dont think that's hurting its sales.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Current Kluger doesnt have diesel either, but I dont think that's hurting its sales.

You're joking right?
The Klugger is outsold by by just about everything including the Territory.
Last month they sold around 875. Crikey, even that lamentable **** the Duallis sold 1,200. Prado, Rav4, i35, & X-Trail all over 1,400. Mazda CX-5 & Jeep GC around 1,700.

[Bossxr8]

No seven seats and no diesel makes it a hard sell, but the 2.7 V6 Ecoboost would be a pretty good bit of gear.

This will be a global model based on what I was reading on the Ford intranet website, with sales across Asia and Europe as well as North and South America.

[The Stylist]

Well it certainly seems this is an 5-seater only, going by the specs below.

Dimensions are listed too; not sure how they compare to the Territory?

[Road_Warrior]

Grrr imperial measurements

[The Stylist]

More pics from the official reveal:

[XR Martin]

100mm shorter than Territory, otherwise its bigger in height and width.

[Franco Cozzo]

I really like the look of that, looks so much better than Territory.

Ford's on a win with the new design language.

[The Stylist]

Some interesting info from this UK-based website, which will be more relevant to us.


Ford Edge (2015) – first pictures of Ford’s new European SUV

Watch out Audi Q5 and Volvo XC60: Ford wants a slice of the action with the new Edge SUV

By Tim Pollard

First Official Pictures

24 June 2014 23:01

You’re looking at the new 2015 Ford Edge crossover – the latest example of Ford taking global or US cars and tailoring them for worldwide sale. The Ford Edge has sold in the US for the past seven years, but this time it’s coming to Europe.

The Ford Edge Mk2, unveiled in Germany and the US overnight, is sized to take on popular European crossovers such as the Volvo XC60 and Audi Q5. At 4810mm long, it’s not a great deal bigger than a Kuga, then, but it is likely to be priced higher. Expect Edge prices to start at around £30,000 when they’re confirmed in 2015.

Ford Edge (2015): what’s new for the European SUV?

The Edge is based on the oily bits Ford calls its C/D architecture - meaning it'll be twinned with the forthcoming Mondeo (eventually), S-Max and Galaxy. It was developed in the US, where the Edge Mk1 has proved a hit, but the Edge Mk2 is a global affair.

So the new Edge boasts a brace of 2.0-litre TDCI turbodiesel engines for CO2-obsessed Europe, offering 178bhp or 207bhp (the latter coming with two turbos, rather than one). Only four-wheel drive models will be launched in the UK, although the platform can support front-wheel drive, should cheaper, more efficient front-drivers be required in future.

It's worth noting how Dearborn is adapting the One Ford, global-car strategy. The new Edge will be very similar wherever on Earth you buy it. Once you account for the European diesel engines, very little else is different for the right-hand drive cars coming here. Only the addition of LED headlamps, a heated windscreen and a hidden bumper beam for EU crash regs are changed for cars on sale in the UK.

The vehicle programme engineering boss Darren Palmer told CAR that even the spring and damper rates were globally set - but he assured us the new Edge will retain Ford's dynamic handling traits. The suspension will have its work cut out, though; the new Edge weighs a whisker under two tonnes in its base form.

Ford Edge: the technology and spec

Much of the technology on the Edge will appear on the Mondeo, when it finally arrives in the UK later in the year. This crossover can park itself (parallel and perpindicular parking, since you ask), there are driver aids for most chores and there's even acoustic double-glazing available.

Ford claims the Edge has the footprint of an Audi Q5 but the interior space to beat a Q7 - with more room than any rival for baggage or bodies, according to Ford's own figures. It felt very spacious when we sat in it at the global debut.

Inside the spacious cabin of the new 2015 Ford Edge

Why is Ford bringing the Edge to the UK?

Because sales of SUVs continue to boom in Europe. According to Ford, crossovers now account for 21% of all cars sold in Europe – up from 10% in 2008. As buyers flock to taller, more practical SUVs, so Ford has turned on the taps, albeit later than swifter rivals, transferring global products to our shores.

This is the Blue Oval's One Ford strategy in action. It's a two-way process: both the Kuga and Ecosport are children of One Ford, flipping from Europe to the world (Kuga) and from Brazil to Europe (Ecosport).

Early signs are the switch to SUVs is working: Ford of Europe sold 1.2 million of 'em in 2013, up 35% on the year before. It has never sold more than 1m crossovers before in a year...

Ford Edge: prices and on-sale date

Expect to see the new Edge in UK Blue Oval showrooms from September 2015. No prices are confirmed yet, but it will undercut the likes of Q5, XC60 and Touareg - pointing to a starter price around £30,000.

The Edge will be built in Canada and exported to Europe; strategically, it allows Ford to stretch its footprint upwards into hitherto untapped market segments - with the higher prices, and margins, commanded by crossovers.

There might be volumes in pile-'em-high Fiestas and Focuses, but there's real profit - and brand kudos - to be found in booming SUV sales, Ford hopes.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...-European-SUV/

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

100mm shorter than Territory, otherwise its bigger in height and width.

They have done well to hide the size.


I love the look of the white one, with ehat I assume is a glass roof...

[FalconXV]

Real shame to kill off Territory. This looks like it's in a different class. Still good, but we should still be able to design our own indigenous 7-sweater crossover, even if it can't be built here...

[Ruination]

I think the Edge looks great, that black on White looks amazing.

[XtRmn8]

Originally Posted by The Stylist

Some interesting info from this UK-based website, which will be more relevant to us.


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So the new Edge boasts a brace of 2.0-litre TDCI turbodiesel engines for CO2-obsessed Europe, offering 178bhp or 207bhp (the latter coming with two turbos, rather than one). Only four-wheel drive models will be launched in the UK, although the platform can support front-wheel drive, should cheaper, more efficient front-drivers be required in future.

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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...-European-SUV/

A 154kw twin-turbo 2.0-litre TDCI sounds interesting. With that much power it will probably have a healthy 450Nm+ torque figure too.

This must be another new diesel engine?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

A 154kw twin-turbo 2.0-litre TDCI sounds interesting. With that much power it will probably have a healthy 450Nm+ torque figure too.

This must be another new diesel engine?

Unless its the same ol PSA 2L engine, seems like a lot of power though for that engine, unless they ditched the Siemens injection system like they did in the UK, thats the big limiting factor on those engines.

Peugeot or Citroen was using the same engine in TT configuration instead of single VGT turbo like Ford was doing.

[chevypower]

I think a 3.0L V6 diesel would be a good option to steal some of the Euro higher-end market. Or a 2.0 diesel hybrid option. I think the 2.7 EcoBoost V6 will be very fun to drive.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by chevypower

I think the 2.7 EcoBoost V6 will be very fun to drive.

Thats a loose definition of fun! These cars are purely transport.

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by block58

Looks good, seems like they've finally realized how terrible the kinetic interior is (as in EcoSport).

Yes not a good effort and once you put your hand inside the interoir handle to close the the plastic finish feels like a knife, this is across all models..

[SumoDog68]

Territory like many SUVs are not a true 7 seven seater. That third row are just auxillary seats really.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by FalconXV

Real shame to kill off Territory. This looks like it's in a different class. Still good, but we should still be able to design our own indigenous 7-sweater crossover, even if it can't be built here...

we have. it's called Everest.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by simon varley

we have. it's called Everest.

I guess we will see but is Everest going to come in at Prado price?

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by simon varley

we have. it's called Everest.

No apart from 7 seat option they will be a very different vehicle.

I recon Everest will struggle with too many similar competitors.
Prado, Pajero, Challenger, MUX & Colorado 7