No More Commodore or Astra - Page 2

Syndrome · 10-12-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hackney

Don’t you worry about that.They would have been planning this for awhile.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=994

For a guy who only three days ago claimed "The nameplate is going to continue to live on,for the foreseeable future" your credibility is non-exsistant so you cannot afford to be condescending.

||| · 10-12-2019, 06:39 PM

lol i'll drink to that!

Franco Cozzo · 10-12-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

New? Hasn’t it been out for over 18 months? Looks ok but is a pretty boring unit, barely more than a white good.

GM Korea? Don’t think so. Only one model currently out of Korea.

I think Holden’s biggest mistake was badging it a Commodore. It would most likely have been better accepted by punters as an Insignia.

No hurry, they kept racing the Nissan for ages after they were discontinued here.

Semantics Mr Spondoolies - you knew what I meant by 'New Camry' - ie current model.

One model or not it's still a rubbish operation, who remembers the Epica and Captiva? Absolute junk cars.

BENT_8 · 10-12-2019, 07:40 PM

Rejoice!!

Now, if they'll only can the Holden name you lot can get on with being 5th or 6th depending on the month behind the real enemy.

CyberWasp · 10-12-2019, 07:55 PM

......and that my friends, completes the story on how to kill a successful car company in the least amount of time.

hackney · 10-12-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=994

For a guy who only three days ago claimed "The nameplate is going to continue to live on,for the foreseeable future" your credibility is non-exsistant so you cannot afford to be condescending.

Well,I got that wrong your honour!I have a bit of a “syndrome”!

Mr Brooksy · 10-12-2019, 08:30 PM

Not to worry, you'll still be able to buy a '19 badged ZB Commodore for the next few years if they still have the reported over stocked storage yards.

Sorry to see the last remaining (if only in name) remnant of Australian manufacturing history officially given the bullet.

Also, I must have missed it... Since when has a RHD Vette been announced?

Eurotrash · 10-12-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

Not to worry, you'll still be able to buy a '19 badged ZB Commodore for the next few years if they still have the reported over stocked storage yards.

Sorry to see the last remaining (if only in name) remnant of Australian manufacturing history officially given the bullet.

Also, I must have missed it... Since when has a RHD Vette been announced?

Back in July.

https://www.goauto.com.au/future-mod...-19/79364.html

JIm260 · 10-12-2019, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

Back in July.

https://www.goauto.com.au/future-mod...-19/79364.html

It will never happen!

jpd80 · 10-12-2019, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Rejoice!!

Now, if they'll only can the Holden name you lot can get on with being 5th or 6th depending on the month behind the real enemy.

I'm wondering if Camry sales will increase once Commodore departs,
the new Camry looks great and maybe more people will give it a go...

Eurotrash · 10-12-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JIm260

It will never happen!

Yeah, I forgot to add, GM have delayed the launch of the Corvette to Australia, so I'm only assuming the next announcement will either be, it's not coming at all, or it'll be the halo car for the new 'Chevrolet' brand in Australia!

JIm260 · 10-12-2019, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

Yeah, I forgot to add, GM have delayed the launch of the Corvette to Australia, so I'm only assuming the next announcement will either be, it's not coming at all, or it'll be the halo car for the new 'Chevrolet' brand in Australia!

I'm guessing the former!

hayseed · 10-12-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Holden will also lodge production orders to GM’s Bowling Green factory for the highly anticipated mid-engine right-hand-drive Corvette next year.
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Wonder if you can put your foot on one for a lazy $100 like the Tesla Ute...

Eurotrash · 10-12-2019, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JIm260

I'm guessing the former!

Having said that though, I really can't see GM investing in any new models for any GM branded vehicles for their only RHD markets, Australia and New Zealand.

The Equinox and Acadia are a one man show, the Trax is long in the tooth now with no replacement in sight and the Trailblazer and Coloardo can only do so much. If GM want to stick around, which doesn't make any sense at all, they'll probably rebadge the brand Chevrolet, the Trax will be axed, the Equinox, Trailblazer and Colorado will also wear the Chevrolet bowtie and the Acadia will go back to being a GMC. They'll probably keep converting the Camaro and Silverado to RHD in Melbourne, which would then compliment the rest of the range.

arronm · 10-12-2019, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

I just wonder how much it has cost them to do it... .

Probably $20 for some commodore badges.

MethodX · 10-12-2019, 09:28 PM

Shame, but we all knew it was coming.
Just have Chevrolet and Cadillac in Aus, at least they have SUV's and performance cars.

JIm260 · 10-12-2019, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

Having said that though, I really can't see GM investing in any new models for any GM branded vehicles for their only RHD markets, Australia and New Zealand.

The Equinox and Acadia are a one man show, the Trax is long in the tooth now with no replacement in sight and the Trailblazer and Coloardo can only do so much. If GM want to stick around, which doesn't make any sense at all, they'll probably rebadge the brand Chevrolet, the Trax will be axed, the Equinox, Trailblazer and Colorado will also wear the Chevrolet bowtie and the Acadia will go back to being a GMC. They'll probably keep converting the Camaro and Silverado to RHD in Melbourne, which would then compliment the rest of the range.

Rebranding costs lots of money, they wont do it, considering what they have just done to Buick in the US. We are at the end of the road for GM here it Australia, its just a question of when.

arronm · 10-12-2019, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I'm wondering if Camry sales will increase once Commodore departs,
the new Camry looks great and maybe more people will give it a go...

FWD rubbish , a car for women and company cars.

I would rather walk than drive FWD.

I will probably buy an AWD commodore in a few years just to have the last one. Park it alongside my VF and VE

See i dont buy foreign cars. I support local industry. If more people thought the same we would still have a car industry.

Eurotrash · 10-12-2019, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JIm260

Rebranding costs lots of money, they wont do it, considering what they have just done to Buick in the US. We are at the end of the road for GM here it Australia, its just a question of when.

I completely agree! GM have nowhere to go.

They're not interested in engineering their products for RHD markets, so people that keep saying bring in Chevrolet or bring in Cadillac, it's just not viable for GM to invest in that.

Unless they get Buick in China to start pumping out RHD cars, it's just not gong to happen.

It'll be goodbye from GM by the end of 2020 for the Australian market.

arronm · 10-12-2019, 09:39 PM

I will forward this link to Holden

https://www.ebay.com.au/b/Holden-Log...11/bn_99102277

**GasoLane** · 10-12-2019, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

FWD rubbish , a car for women and company cars.

I would rather walk than drive FWD.

I will probably buy an AWD commodore in a few years just to have the last one. Park it alongside my VF and VE

See i dont buy foreign cars. I support local industry. If more people thought the same we would still have a car industry.

Rather conflicting statements there

futura · 10-12-2019, 09:50 PM

About time. Long overdue.

**DFB FGXR6** · 10-12-2019, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

FWD rubbish , a car for women and company cars.

I would rather walk than drive FWD.

I will probably buy an AWD commodore in a few years just to have the last one. Park it alongside my VF and VE

See i dont buy foreign cars. I support local industry. If more people thought the same we would still have a car industry.

You do realise that AWD system is FWD biased? Ie FWD until slip is detected.

JIm260 · 10-12-2019, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

I completely agree! GM have nowhere to go.

They're not interested in engineering their products for RHD markets, so people that keep saying bring in Chevrolet or bring in Cadillac, it's just not viable for GM to invest in that.

Unless they get Buick in China to start pumping out RHD cars, it's just not gong to happen.

It'll be goodbye from GM by the end of 2020 for the Australian market.

The Chinese for some reason revered the Buick nameplate and bought bucket loads of them, but that seems to have changed. Its all SUV now with the new generation.

Check out Steve Lehtos's view of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFowgMbxMg

**Charliewool** · 10-12-2019, 10:01 PM

Might see the Chev Traverse appear, if as mentioned GM are going to concentrate on SUVs?
Neighbours up the road from us have a 2018 Traverse... Huge inside and loaded with tech... Only V6 but pulls great for a relatively large rig

Falcon SXR8 · 10-12-2019, 10:02 PM

I already mourned the death of the commodore when the last vf rolled off the line. Cant say i care to much about this.

**DFB FGXR6** · 10-12-2019, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Might see the Chev Traverse appear, if as mentioned GM are going to concentrate on SUVs?
Neighbours up the road from us have a 2018 Traverse... Huge inside and loaded with tech... Only V6 but pulls great for a relatively large rig

RHD though?

Eurotrash · 10-12-2019, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Charliewool

Might see the Chev Traverse appear, if as mentioned GM are going to concentrate on SUVs?
Neighbours up the road from us have a 2018 Traverse... Huge inside and loaded with tech... Only V6 but pulls great for a relatively large rig

The Chevrolet Traverse is bigger (longer) than the Acadia and sits on a modified version of the Acadia's platform. It's also not built in RHD.

Styling wise, it probably would've been a better fit within the Holden brand, but it was just too big for Holden.

Franco Cozzo · 10-12-2019, 10:35 PM

**** that **** - bring the Suburban back

Even comes factory with Chevrolet badges for +100hp

I hate SUV's on principle - but a Suburban or an Explorer would peak my interest as they're next level, massive, usually big engines under the bonnet.

tranquilized · 10-12-2019, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

FWD rubbish , a car for women and company cars.

I would rather walk than drive FWD.

I will probably buy an AWD commodore in a few years just to have the last one. Park it alongside my VF and VE

See i dont buy foreign cars. I support local industry. If more people thought the same we would still have a car industry.

You'd rather walk than FWD but happy with a transverse chassis commodore that understeers exactly like any other nose heavy FWD vehicle but with the the extra weight of a tacked on AWD system it doesn't need anyway?

Ok then 🙄