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Old 01-02-2021, 05:59 PM   #31
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I don't have $90K laying around, but if I did, I'd buy it and use it as my daily. None of this garaging it and heading into the garage just to look at it. I'd be driving it everywhere.
Nice thought although you'd need to be content losing 30 or 40k in the first 12 months in that scenario.
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When the FGX XR8s were new I never saw them new that low. Drive away with tint in the $58,00 to $59,000- and allocations sold like hot cakes.

You may be right with the FPV GT Miamis sitting around gathering dust at $76,000 drive away, but Ford enthusiasts know a bargain, and the FGX Xr8 was a reskinned GT Rspec for almost $20K less.

What a car is worth is what someone is prepared to pay. Supply ( limited and ever decreasing) and demand (heritage- won Supercars, last Ford Ausssie v8, probably never made available again, dwindling analog manuals) who knows....?

When I bought my Sprint 6 in Sept 2016 I could have bought an XR8 for $49,990 drive away brand new. My dealer had about 7 of them left and just wanted to clear them, a few were 2015 plates that had just been sitting still because everyone was looking for a Sprint.
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Honestly, I don't think they mind either way if it sells, from the conversation I had. When I asked him how much he'd sell it for, he said around 55k/60k. Not at all unreasonable.

Again, it's not advertised anywhere and it's tucked wayyyy up the back of the showroom, so I'm not sure they are desperate to sell.
Good point overall on the car - there are many a DP over the years who are collectors enthusiasts themselves - high price is that he wants it in his stable but if he gets a bite near the $90k wouldn’t be surprised he’ll pocket the dollars.
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Interesting comments about the value of a second hand FG X XR8. Last July, I renewed my insurance, choosing to go with Shannons becaise of the low premium, associated with the low kms I now travel in mine.

During the renewal process, I negotiated with them on the agreed value for my car. My car had around 55000km on it at the time. I had a hard time getting them to move much on the agreed value, eventually ending up at $48k. One reference i used was carsales which showed that similar km cars were asking a little more than Shannons' original offer. We eventually agreed on the $48k, but only after I mentioned that my car had a sunroof fitted.

If the (reasonable) carsales advertised prices are in the ballpark of the sale price, I think there's room for my agreed value to be raised a bit come renewal time.

The reason I saw the ad I posted was because I sample the market value occasionally, and I have noted that the second hand asking prices have certainly increased over the last couple of years, and that includes a corresponding increase in odometer readings, too.

I bought my XR8 in early 2015 and probably paid a premium wanting it at the height of the interest in them. I was comfortable with what I paid (just over $60k driveaway including sunroof, IIRC) and am still happy with what I paid now. $10k over the life of the car is nothing. And considering that I could now get around $50k for it after 5 years and near on 60000km on the clock, I think it's holding it's value rather well.
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How dare you be happy with your car!
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When I bought my Sprint 6 in Sept 2016 I could have bought an XR8 for $49,990 drive away brand new. My dealer had about 7 of them left and just wanted to clear them, a few were 2015 plates that had just been sitting still because everyone was looking for a Sprint.
yes correct but in fairness to the XR8 its was on its last legs as you knew quoting 2015 plates but picking up a Sprint in Sept 2016, so every dealer had cut back their XR8 selling price to shift standing stock being Sprint was the LAST coming so to speak.
I saw many prior to Sprint $52k ++ and abouts, that was its market pricing.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...es-price-29720

In fairness FGXXR8 is a golden buy when at new, even I went back and forth, do i or don't i pay more for the Sprint BUT the LE won me over and in hindsight whats not to say the FGXXR8 isn't LE anyway, its not like they made or sold in the triple figures of old days.
Good luck to you XR8 owners, I reckon they are gold in any case.
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Interesting comments about the value of a second hand FG X XR8. Last July, I renewed my insurance, choosing to go with Shannons becaise of the low premium, associated with the low kms I now travel in mine.

During the renewal process, I negotiated with them on the agreed value for my car. My car had around 55000km on it at the time. I had a hard time getting them to move much on the agreed value, eventually ending up at $48k. One reference i used was carsales which showed that similar km cars were asking a little more than Shannons' original offer. We eventually agreed on the $48k, but only after I mentioned that my car had a sunroof fitted.

If the (reasonable) carsales advertised prices are in the ballpark of the sale price, I think there's room for my agreed value to be raised a bit come renewal time.

The reason I saw the ad I posted was because I sample the market value occasionally, and I have noted that the second hand asking prices have certainly increased over the last couple of years, and that includes a corresponding increase in odometer readings, too.

I bought my XR8 in early 2015 and probably paid a premium wanting it at the height of the interest in them. I was comfortable with what I paid (just over $60k driveaway including sunroof, IIRC) and am still happy with what I paid now. $10k over the life of the car is nothing. And considering that I could now get around $50k for it after 5 years and near on 60000km on the clock, I think it's holding it's value rather well.
good on you well said.

I was down at the mazda dealer for the wife this morn and obviously I wanted to have a walk around the Ford dealer across the road.
I was rapted to see a Gold FGXXR6T and look what their asking and k's :
Vehicle 2015 Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo FG X Auto
Price $49,888*
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OK say they accept not less than $45k more like $47-48k.
heading towards a 6yr old Falcon, normally would have been wayway less selling price back in the usual days re depreciation.
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So what exactly is wrong with anyone (private or business) buying something that they can see a profit in.Unless you work for a Govt dept you would know that business is all about buying and selling,with the intention of picking up as much profit as possible on the sale.
Well clearly it’s selling isn’t it 😂! It’s been listed for 2 months now by the dealer that purchased it so it’s fair to say that the bulk majority of Australia don’t see it as a good value buy at ~$90K especially when the exact car was listed for $59,000 and sold in a day 😂
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Well clearly it’s selling isn’t it 😂! It’s been listed for 2 months now by the dealer that purchased it so it’s fair to say that the bulk majority of Australia don’t see it as a good value buy at ~$90K especially when the exact car was listed for $59,000 and sold in a day 😂
Maybe,just maybe the current owner doesn’t want to sell unless someone pays what the owner considers it is worth to them long term.
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Just as an aside StrikeTwice A Holden sold last week for $750,000 but obviously 25.75 millions of people didn’t reckon it was worth that much either!!!!
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Then it will be listed for a long time
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Just as an aside StrikeTwice A Holden sold last week for $750,000 but obviously 25.75 millions of people didn’t reckon it was worth that much either!!!!
And.....you made your point (with multiple exclamation pointssssss)
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I see FG xr6 turbos are going up in price too! My Dad has a perfect one (think its a 2009 ) with 70,000 km on it (silver leather. 19s) and the dealer recently said lock that away, values are going up. We thought it would be worth about 20, but looks like its a good 30 and heading up. I told him, make sure you keep that one, probably be worth more than his 2 year old Mustang in a couple of years!
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In terms of final iteration performance Falcon values, LE Monaros were maligned for a while, too.
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Go back to Fiji or netflix Hulk Series or better still in your camry
Ironically you ad no value even @ 1c or is it no sense, either ither.
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It's not just the high-performance Falcon's holding value.

XR6's are holding pretty strong too.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...9523916/?Cr=10

Once upon a time, a five year old Falcon would have been valued below 20K!
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It's not just the high-performance Falcon's holding value.

XR6's are holding pretty strong too.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...9523916/?Cr=10

Once upon a time, a five year old Falcon would have been valued below 20K!
Your not wrong, anything Ford OR Holden in the last few itinerations seems to be going nuts.... I wanted a Manual FGX XR6T Sedan but the prices are insane... Not to mention the fact that I have had multiple offers on my MY17 SSV Redline well above what I paid for it new... Even the dealer we bought wifeys new car off in October last year (large group with multiple brands/large used car market) offered to buy the thing off me when we where there in it for, what I think, is obscene $$$...

As for the $90k FGX of this post, Yes its overpriced, we all know that, but all it takes is 1 cashed up enthusiast... They obviously aren’t in a hurry to sell it at the moment, and if they ever got desperate they could bring it down $30k and they would probably be beating them away with a stick.,,..
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My post that you quoted stated that "If I had $90K laying around". And, if I did, I would be in a position where I wouldn't give a stuff about depreciation or whether some DP thought I was a sucker. Go troll someone else.
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They had the life span of any other Falcon. Around ten years, with a decent upgrade in the middle.
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I accept your comment about having $90k laying around burning a hole in your pocket. But even then, would you choose a 6 year old FGX XR8 to buy amongst all other cars for sale at $90k?

It's a moot point if the money is sitting around or not , it's about what can you get for that $90k. I hear that premcar are offering a $25k tune and exhaust if you have extra money sitting around?

Ive owned a FGX XR8 and they are nice, but even in 2015 they were considered an ancient car. Basically a 2010 FG falcon with a bruiser of a motor.
Apart from insulting all with your previous deleted post your head just doesn't compute in the big picture......
Be it a FGX but lets add in XSeries pricing to this day @ $50k rust buckets to start off with your train of thought, why would you choose a 6yr old FGX amongst all other cars @ $90k or abouts.....
Thats what people want and do, your not to question or belittle a persons decision what there willing to pay be it 6yrs old or whatever.
Your a perrenial troll that just keeps giving here tbh and one has to wonder why you keep coming back after all the negative response you get.
I get kicks are for kicks BUT I guess your a really lonely person in the big picture for with an attitude like yours would drive any friend you may have had away......
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I don't have $90K laying around, but if I did, I'd buy it and use it as my daily. None of this garaging it and heading into the garage just to look at it. I'd be driving it everywhere.
Me too. I'd drive it and enjoy it until the odo hit 149988km, then sell it.

That way potential buyer can take it on a 10km test drive, buy it, and then drive it 2km away from my house before it instantly blows up the moment it turns over 150000km.
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I'm not so sure you can compute my point. Sure people are entitled to spend their money where they want, over pay if they want. I'm not trying to insult anyone, save you from over paying, lining other people's pockets.

If your the only person who would pay $90k for the 6 year old xr8, does that make you very intelligent? Holding the bag at the end with no other buyers in sight. Knowing the previous owner paid less than Half for it and is licking their lips at your expense?

My rule when buying a car is unless brand new, the previous owner must have paid more than you. Cars depreciate!!

Can I give you a call next time I sell my car? We can both be very happy. You can overpay 200% and I'll shake your hand in appreciation. Win/win?
What makes you the oracle?

You come off like a Jehova all knowing telling everyone the world is nigh and you better get onto your bandwagon so you can also be in the club to choose the choice locations of Earth for yourself when doomsday comes.

Questioning peoples intelligence, people entitled to have different desires and spend their money they way that makes them happy.

You come across like such an arrogant dolt.
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Most cars depreciate, buy you only have to look at what happened to F250s when they stopped getting converted in the 2000's. There are exceptions based on a number of factors.
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Can mods please delete my previous post- made when I was a bit prickly yesterday when I was feeling crook and snapped and made inappropriate comments including analogies to religion.

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I'm not so sure you can compute my point. Sure people are entitled to spend their money where they want, over pay if they want. I'm not trying to insult anyone, save you from over paying, lining other people's pockets.

If your the only person who would pay $90k for the 6 year old xr8, does that make you very intelligent? Holding the bag at the end with no other buyers in sight. Knowing the previous owner paid less than Half for it and is licking their lips at your expense?

My rule when buying a car is unless brand new, the previous owner must have paid more than you. Cars depreciate!!

Can I give you a call next time I sell my car? We can both be very happy. You can overpay 200% and I'll shake your hand in appreciation. Win/win?
I'm writing with tongue firmly in my cheek to save any misunderstandings....

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Can I give you a call next time I sell my car? We can both be very happy. You can overpay 200% and I'll shake your hand in appreciation. Win/win?
I'll PM you my number, Aurions are such a collectable car these days.
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I'm writing with tongue firmly in my cheek to save any misunderstandings....

So how do I go about following your rule and buy any GT Falcon circa 1960's-70's...let alone a HO...

My rule is "all rules have exceptions and if you're not flexible you snap...."
Not just GT's either.
I know a Bloke who recently sold an original unmolested '65 XP Ute for $30k...
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Can mods please delete my previous post- made when I was a bit prickly yesterday when I was feeling crook and snapped and made inappropriate comments including analogies to religion.

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I thought it quite to-the-point, and merited - particularly in my not understanding the Internet practice of banning characters rather than the person who returns relentlessly to poison the water. Glad the judiciary don’t do this.
I agree, CB. Whilst it is very hard at times to not get sucked in, I've found it best to



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