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06-02-2010, 11:30 AM | #61 | ||
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Yeah we heard about the rust one a while ago. Cant believe how bad they rust out!
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06-02-2010, 09:04 PM | #62 | |||
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06-02-2010, 09:25 PM | #63 | ||
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Wow, this is bad news for toyota. As a closet toyota fanboy, i'm sad to see such a disasterous thing happen to the once-king of quality in normal-person cars. Just remember in the late 80's a similar thing happened to Audi in the US where apparent sudden unassisted accelleration killed people (this was later found out to be false) but nonetheless it killed Audi in the US for years.
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06-02-2010, 09:47 PM | #64 | ||
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Toyota were caught covering up problems with the Surf front suspension that would collapse and caused a few deaths in Japan. (these Surfs made it to here on the grey market, and have never been fixed)
Also there was the headgasket issues with engines, and oil sludging. These we recalled overseas, but were ignored here.
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06-02-2010, 10:33 PM | #65 | ||
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toyota isnt the only car maker to suffer recoils for dangerous flaws on a large scale... ford usa has had it fair share too, this is from http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recal...calls_auto.htm in america
* Ford Recalls Millions of Vehicles to Fix Fire Danger * 2009 Ford Expedition, Navigator * 2009 Ford F-150 Pickups * Ford Recalls Big Trucks, Motor Homes * Ford F-150, Lincoln Mark LT Pickups * Ford Recalls F-250, F-350 Trucks for Fire Hazard * Ford Recalls 2008 E-350s * High-Speed Steering Shimmy in Ford F-250, F-350 Probed * Ford F-250, F-350 Super Duty Trucks Recalled for Driver Seat Flaw * Ford Recalls 400,000 Mustangs * Ford Expedition, Lincoln Navigators Recalled to Fix Door Handle * Ford Recalls 57,000 More Trucks, SUVS for Fire Hazard * NHTSA Probes Ford F150 Brake Failure * Ford Recalls 1.2 Million Diesel Trucks, SUVs, Vans * Feds Probe Ford F-250, F-350, Five Hundred, Freestyle * Brake Fires Plague Ford Escape, 527,000 Recalled * Ford Stops Sales of Big Super Duty, Recalls 2008 Trucks * Ford Recalls Police Cruiser for Faulty Wheels * Ford Recalls 155,000 More Trucks to Fix Fire Hazard * Ford Recalls Five Hundred, Montego and Escape Hybrid SUVs * Feds Wind Up Ford Engine Fire Probe with Massive Recall * Ford Recalls Escape, Mariner to Fix Headliners * Ford Mustang Cobra * Ford F-150, Lincoln Mark LT * Ford Recalls 224,000 Vehicles to Fix Windshield Wipers it seems that they all suffer build quality issues, some more than others, the proof in toyotas pudding will be whether they can weather the storm of scapegoating and spin from rivals in the major markets.. if they do it right its gonna cost them a lot of their massive cash flow but i reckon if any company can come back from this it will be them, they are backed by their build history and massive customer base.. spose we'll see
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07-02-2010, 02:47 AM | #66 | ||
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That's an impressive list to be sure. So is this one....
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls/auto/toyota.html *2008-10 Highlanders *2009-2010 Corollas, Venzas, and Matrixes *2007-10 Camrys *2009-10 Corollas *2009-10 RAV4s *2009-10 Matrixes *2005-10 Avalons *2010 Highlanders *2007-10 Tundras *2008-10 Sequoias *Another 2.3 Million Toyota, Lexus Models Recalled *Toyota Recalls Camry, Avalon, Prius, Tacoma, Tundra, Lexus Models to Fix *Runaway Acceleration *Toyota Recalling 110,000 Tundra Pickups *Toyota Camry, Avalon, Prius, Tacoma, Tundra *2008-2009 Toyota Scion XD *2009-2010 Toyota Corolla, Corolla Matrix, Pontiac Vibe *2006-2007 Toyota Yaris *2004 Toyota Sienna *Toyota Siennas Recalled to Fix Liftgate *Toyota Highlander, Highlander Hybrids *Feds Probe Unintended Acceleration in Toyota Sienna Minivan *Toyota Matrix & Corolla *Toyota Recalls Some 2007 Tundra Pickups *Toyota Extends Sienna Liftgate Warranty *Toyota Recalls Camry, Lexus Floor Mats, NHTSA Warns Prius Owners *Toyota, NHTSA Investigate 360,000 Sienna Vans *Airbag Danger Prompts Scion TC Recall *Toyota Recalls 533,000 Trucks for Failed Ball Joints *Toyota Recalls Near 800,000 for July *Toyota Tundra Recalled to Disable Front Passenger Airbag Switch *Toyota Recalls Highlander, Lexus RX SUVs *Toyota Scion tC Moonroof Failures Probed *NHTSA Probes 600,000 Toyota Trucks and Vans *Toyota FJ Cruiser Recalled For Tire Flaw *Massive Toyota Recall Affects Nearly One Million *Toyota Recalls Prius for Steering Defect .....yet, with just as impressive a list as Fords', Toyota still had a stellar quality reputation. Here in the US that was due, I believe, to the lack of equivalent media coverage on defects by Japanese auto makers. What happened to Toyota this time is that there was a recording of people on the phone that were actually killed in a Toyota product, and we all know THAT is good television and ratings. Steve
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07-02-2010, 02:43 PM | #67 | |||
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07-02-2010, 08:11 PM | #68 | |||
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07-02-2010, 08:48 PM | #69 | ||
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Yet Toyota are refusing to recall the Prius here.
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08-02-2010, 07:17 PM | #70 | |||
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Toyota chief finally apologises for world’s biggest recall
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09-02-2010, 06:36 PM | #71 | |||
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Toyota stands by Camry Hybrid
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09-02-2010, 07:02 PM | #73 | |||
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Toyota Australia recalling Prius
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09-02-2010, 07:41 PM | #74 | |||
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Well, NUMMI closed because GM pulled out first. So, are they going to stop buying GM vehicles too? No, just Toyota's.
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09-02-2010, 07:47 PM | #75 | |||
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09-02-2010, 11:01 PM | #76 | ||
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OMG Toyota is getting hammered in the media at the moment.. And about the one thing that is its best seller. Reliability!! Could this just be the turning point here in Australia for either Ford or Holden (or both) to start making big in roads into that massive market share lead Toyota has??
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10-02-2010, 01:50 PM | #77 | |||
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GM only pulled out because the Federal Government required them to get rid of several brands and one of them was Pontiac. The Pontiac Vibe (same car as the Toyota Matrix) was the only vehicle GM was building there. It was not a GM decision to just pull out of that plant. The brand wasn't going to exist anymore. Also, the plant has been there 24 years. The workers have a UAW contract. That means that the workers could retire at 30 years. Well, toyota won't have that. They only have 371 retirees in the US. The NUMMI plant was Toyota's first plant in the US. That's compared to GM and Ford who have been building cars in the US for over 100 years. Toyota will have as few retirees as it can muster. Steve
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10-02-2010, 06:08 PM | #78 | |||
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better than never i reckon.. if its good than it'll pave the way for the return in toyota's credibility.. in aus and nz anyway
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11-02-2010, 07:26 PM | #79 | |||
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Corolla may be recalled due to steering problems.
Corolla could embarrass Toyota next http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576C7000C34A5 Quote:
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11-02-2010, 08:01 PM | #80 | ||
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Bugger....this is going to hurt them big time. Reliability rep is something toyota trades off enormously not just with the general public but fleet buyers etc.
Bit of an error in that Goauto report though. It is an EPAS (electrical power assist steering), not truly a fly by wire (like the throttle cables for instance). The steering is still mechanical just the power steering assistance is not from an engine driven hydrualic pump but an electrically driven pump (this is my understand....someone please correct me if i'm wrong) Either way it is not fly by wire (e.g. a sony plastation wheel).
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11-02-2010, 08:59 PM | #81 | |||
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Last year I read about a former Toyota lawyer that was suing Toyota for requiring him to perform illegal acts, such as repressing evidence in roll over cases that would prove Toyota liable in 300 roll over cases.
Today I learned he was recently on ABC News and telling more about Toyota. Toyota is suing him as well. For slander? No, for divulging privaledged information. It is odd, you would think if what he was saying was not true they would sue him for slander.......but evidently they can't. Here's the info attached to the video..... Quote:
Here's the video.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_BVB4kqp7Y If that is not damaging enough, here is an article about him in USA Today... http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...ota11_ST_N.htm Quote:
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12-02-2010, 10:20 AM | #83 | ||
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and it keep's comming, now being sued for excees depreciation.
by joe citizen who seem to think they baught an investment. http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/1132961.html
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12-02-2010, 11:05 AM | #84 | ||
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I've said the before, but I'll say it again..
I think we're seeing the turning point & have seen the peek from Toyota with regards to sales both O/S & here in Australia (for at least a few years to come anyway). This will really hurt them, especially if they add Corolla to the recall list. Who will step up first here in Australia to claim top spot, Ford or Holden? May not happen this year (as the gap is huge), but next year I think either Ford or Holden will be top seller. |
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Australia's Corolla safe, says Toyota
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