2 Mobile Speed Camera Cars attacked in a Week

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

I dont think they do it anymore, but years ago in NSW if you had no infringments in the prior 5 years you'd get 50% off your licence renewel. So incentive based.
Granted that wont stop speeding or unsafe driving.

Vic used to allow VicPol to waive infringements, if you were doing under 10kms over the limit, and had a clear 2 year history. For that, you have to write into Vic Pol and admit that you were speeding. It was pretty much automatic approval so long as you met those two conditions. I think they took it away a couple of years ago, as the TAC said it was "sending the wrong message".

Also, anyone remember NSW gov deciding to waive the double demerit points system when they just came out of lock down, and it was during the holiday period? I think the reasoning was not to further burden drivers after harsh lock downs. If that is not an admission of "its not all about safety" I don't know what is.

[whitelion65]

They gave you a 100% discount from driving didn't they, Franco?? ;-)

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Vic used to allow VicPol to waive infringements, if you were doing under 10kms over the limit, and had a clear 2 year history. For that, you have to write into Vic Pol and admit that you were speeding. It was pretty much automatic approval so long as you met those two conditions. I think they took it away a couple of years ago, as the TAC said it was "sending the wrong message".

Exact thing happened to me (silly me got 2 in 3 days) one 54/50 other 114/110
Got out of the first one via that process.
Needless to say i did try it again with the second but it didnt work Was a few years ago now.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by whitelion65

They gave you a 100% discount from driving didn't they, Franco?? ;-)

Only for 12 months, means I can drink 24/7 and with these fuel prices I'm not missing out on too much, can't think of a better time to lose your licence

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

100 zone, very wide and straight section of the Princes Fwy

the most dangerous thing in those pictures is the location of the parked camera car

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Only for 12 months, means I can drink 24/7 and with these fuel prices I'm not missing out on too much, can't think of a better time to lose your licence

You can put the ethanol directly into... yourself!

[Rallye Sport]

So let me get this straight.
I'm obviously speeding if I'm worried about cameras, so instead or aswell as, I'm also using my phone to receive alerts and then report back if they're still there?
When did two wrongs become a right?

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

So let me get this straight.
I'm obviously speeding if I'm worried about cameras, so instead or aswell as, I'm also using my phone to receive alerts and then report back if they're still there?
When did two wrongs become a right?

For Vic...

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe...%20all,texting

Fully licensed car drivers
A fully licensed driver can use a phone to make or receive a phone call, to use its audio/music functions or perform a navigational (GPS) or intelligent highway vehicle system (in vehicle warning system) function but only if the phone:

• is secured in a commercially designed holder fixed to the vehicle, or
• can be operated by the driver without touching any part of the phone, and the phone is not resting on any part of the driver's body.
• All other functions (including video calls, texting, emailing, task management, photography, social media, shopping and share economy apps) are prohibited.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

So let me get this straight.
I'm obviously speeding if I'm worried about cameras, so instead or aswell as, I'm also using my phone to receive alerts and then report back if they're still there?
When did two wrongs become a right?

Speed limits so low, speed cameras everywhere, whats the harm in playing with your phone you're sitting in Melbourne's BS road network doing 5km/h anyway

[Rallye Sport]

I was just wondering guys and it looks like my question got answered.... No need for justifications.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Speed cameras at the base of hills + low speed limits + automatics with poor gear braking + hidden camera cars + living in Victoria = a great public servant christmas party. Rallye Sport, if you're hinting that you've never sped, then I applaud you. My Dad was an extremely responsible and accomplished driver and even he got done twice.

[PG2]

I've been down to Victoria only twice in the last ten years - both times for AFF drags.

I'd visit Victoria more often but the two times that I have been down there I have not enjoyed it. Driving around with one eye glued on the speedo and the other one watching out for the change of speed limits every 30 seconds. Then getting all anxious if I do spot a camera car doubting myself that I have the speed limit correct.

No thanks.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by PG2

I've been down to Victoria only twice in the last ten years - both times for AFF drags.

I'd visit Victoria more often but the two times that I have been down there I have not enjoyed it. Driving around with one eye glued on the speedo and the other one watching out for the change of speed limits every 30 seconds. Then getting all anxious if I do spot a camera car doubting myself that I have the speed limit correct.

No thanks.

When you been knocked off a few times with camera cars you get to know what they look like and they stand out like dog balls here in Vic, you just got to watch out for those damn sneaky highway patrol cars.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by PG2

I've been down to Victoria only twice in the last ten years - both times for AFF drags.

I'd visit Victoria more often but the two times that I have been down there I have not enjoyed it. Driving around with one eye glued on the speedo and the other one watching out for the change of speed limits every 30 seconds. Then getting all anxious if I do spot a camera car doubting myself that I have the speed limit correct.

No thanks.

You can tell the difference between states with how people drive too - in NSW the traffic moves along MUCH faster than it does around VIC. People generally do the speed limit or a bit more.

Even just getting away at the lights, driving around Sydney was a refreshing change, people actually moved away from the lights the moment they went green rather than waiting 5 seconds before finally moving.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even just getting away at the lights, driving around Sydney was a refreshing change, people actually moved away from the lights the moment they went green rather than waiting 5 seconds before finally moving.

You mean... I wasn't really winning all this time?!

[Professor Farnsworth]

Sydney drivers also tend to get out of the right lane more often as well. Victorians are jerks, to be fair.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Sydney drivers also tend to get out of the right lane more often as well. Victorians are jerks, to be fair.

Its because they only police speeding and not driver behavior, there's no law against being a turd on the road to other drivers and they literally don't care about someone in their absolute ****box car with 20 year old Chinese tyres, cracked windscreen and $12 brake pads but my lord if you do 105km/h in a 100 zone the camera will get you.

Well there might be but the first person here who can throw up evidence they've been fined for sitting in the right lane at under the limit I'll shout em a pint when I'm in their capital city next.

I did the entire NSW coast freeways and I was the one holding people up with my GPS with cruise control on 112-113km/h where as here you might as well as not bother with cruise control because you'll come across someone doing 75km/h who suddenly speeds up to 120km/h when the overtaking lane starts then back to 75km/h after it ends.

Standard of driving here is woeful but there's no effort in creating better drivers through education or stricter testing.

When I first got my Ls I used to always go to drive on the wrong side of the road because I spent 10 years playing video games where everything is LHD prior to getting into a car as the driver for the first time, it took a while to shake that one

My test was drive around Sunbury for 50 minutes and do a 3 point turn, my licence test was literally the first time I ever saw traffic lights because I did 200 hours on my Ls on country highways - the very next day after getting my licence I was driving through inner suburban Melbourne picking up customers cars and taking them back to the workshop in the outer suburbs figuring out how everything worked as I went in their cars.

Then when I first come across trams I wasn't even aware you were supposed to stop when they did, so I chopped it on the left and the people on the tram nearly walked out into my bonnet.

They basically just teach you how to pass a test and then once you do and you get your licence thats when you start actually figuring out everything. I think thats why you see so many people on the DCOA compilations sitting at the lights then one person running a red and others following them, its sort of monkey see monkey do, same with people sitting at greens for ages then finally one moves off then the rest in the other lanes do too.

The fact I'm still alive is surprising cause it was an uphill battle thats for sure

[jstanovic]

Just a thought, as talked about above there are spots that are notorious for having mobile cameras so you generally slow down in those areas/roads in case there is a camera. Isn't that one of the ways they are making people slow down? If you know there is a spot that is popular for mobile cameras, don't you generally slow down just in case?

Agree, the fine in the mail weeks later is a bit ****house but they're not going away any time soon.

[Professor Farnsworth]

If you can memorise all 9 million spots, and never have anything other than speed cameras on your mind, then sure no problem - these are things only a Victorian can truly appreciate lol. In our case, my wife said she'd just overtaken the car you can see behind her in the photo i posted, changed back into the left lane and got back to business, down a hill, then bang, 105 - so it is what it is. We'll pay it, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss the (lack of) virtues i guess.

EDIT: currently 1851 mobile speed camera locations in VIC

The guidelines specify that:

> while using a mobile camera, the operator can park the vehicle on a footpath, a nature strip or a dividing strip
> there are no technical or legal restrictions on placing a mobile road safety camera on a slope, gradient or hill.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

In our case, my wife said she'd just overtaken the car you can see behind her in the photo i posted, changed back into the left lane and got back to business, down a hill, then bang, 105 - so it is what it is. We'll pay it, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss the (lack of) virtues i guess.

Mine was here



Except I don't have a wife, it was me, got in the right lane, overtook two cars, looking in mirror, well clear, pulled back into the left lane.

I looked back at the road from the rear view mirror, I was greeted by a Toyota Kluger facing me in the middle of the road.



...........and it was 161km/h and 135km/h which I got booked for the former because he asked me how fast I was going and I admitted it trying to pass attitude test, squeaky clean record, no demerit points, no fines, not even a parking ticket

It was the first time driving that road in 12 years I'd ever seen a speed trap set up there, apparently 'an area known for speeding'.... Well yeah its one of the three overtaking lanes in 70km stretch of that road.

RIP licence

Though because he decided to go for the 161 instead of the 135, it bought me another 5 months on the road before my date with the local magistrate, along with 53 others on the same day.

Had he booked me for the 135, I'd have lost my licence on the spot for 3 months I think.

I get home after the car gets impounded and I change my fuel filter and fuel lines on my ute and 10 minutes later I'm back out on the road, though a lot more careful specifically intending not to make a bad situation worse before I get in front of the magistrate - no more hectic overtakes and I'm a lot calmer behind the wheel, I just cruise around now (well in the 'in between' period) and hang back behind other cars rather than do one of those horrid 'speed limit overtakes' that takes up the whole stretch of the overtaking lane and ****s everyone else behind you.

All up it cost around $3800 or there about including impound fees, legal representation (which got one of the charges dropped - best $550 I've ever spent in my LIFE), fine and some nice new threads, shoes and a haircut for my court appearance so I was looking gucci

The irony was I blew the gearbox in the same car in the same place overtaking a truck earlier that year, apparently bad luck comes in threes so I'm waiting for something else to fall off the rails drastically through my own actions

[T3rminator]

Next target? This link talks about NSW, but mate in Brissy tell me they've had it for years! Jeepers....how long would they last in Melb?

https://www.news.com.au/technology/r...65f1b8b2da8191

“Didn’t know this was a thing. Unmarked council vehicle with ANPR (surveillance) cameras doing laps of Wolli Creek looking for parking offenders,” the video was captioned.

[simon varley]

is it legal to cover up your rego plate when you are parked?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Next target? This link talks about NSW, but mate in Brissy tell me they've had it for years! Jeepers....how long would they last in Melb?

https://www.news.com.au/technology/r...65f1b8b2da8191



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Old news here as we've had them for a few years now even though we only have a pop of 60,000 but . Nobody seems overly fussed about them

They even cover council owned car parks...which includes shopping centres

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by simon varley

is it legal to cover up your rego plate when you are parked?

That just makes them madder, a dirty number plate is a $341 fine to cops so covering it would be just as bad,
I bet old mate mobile parking officer would dob you into his copper brother for the easy win….

Many years ago, I heard of a dude in a white Corolla who used to have a ton of rego numbers
from Corollas like his, so guess what this knobber did, yep he had stick over panels with
fake regos while parked, so guess where the tickets finally ended up (not him).
Basically used plod’s laziness against themselves.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

…The irony was I blew the gearbox in the same car in the same place overtaking a truck earlier that year, apparently bad luck comes in threes so I'm waiting for something else to fall off the rails drastically through my own actions

I’m tipping that to happen about nine months after you meet a nice Sudanese girl on Tinder.

[jstanovic]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

If you can memorise all 9 million spots, and never have anything other than speed cameras on your mind, then sure no problem - these are things only a Victorian can truly appreciate lol. In our case, my wife said she'd just overtaken the car you can see behind her in the photo i posted, changed back into the left lane and got back to business, down a hill, then bang, 105 - so it is what it is. We'll pay it, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss the (lack of) virtues i guess.

EDIT: currently 1851 mobile speed camera locations in VIC

The guidelines specify that:

> while using a mobile camera, the operator can park the vehicle on a footpath, a nature strip or a dividing strip
> there are no technical or legal restrictions on placing a mobile road safety camera on a slope, gradient or hill.

My theory was if there are regular roads you use and you often see cameras in certain spots you would obviously slow down around those stretches of road. Couple roads near my place have them in the same spots so I sit on the speed limit, would be crazy not to slow down, so the hidden cameras have stopped me from speeding on those roads.
A mate has been booked twice in 6 months from a mobile camera in exactly the same spot on one of those roads though so doesn't work for everyone haha!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I’m tipping that to happen about nine months after you meet a nice Sudanese girl on Tinder.

Its available, could be a good one for someone who works at Kensington legal too

https://flemkenlegal.org/our-vision

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

So let me get this straight.
I'm obviously speeding if I'm worried about cameras, so instead or aswell as, I'm also using my phone to receive alerts and then report back if they're still there?
When did two wrongs become a right?

Ever heard of smart phone mirroring? It's 100% legal.
You can still shake your fist if you want. That's your opinion which is fine.

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Ever heard of smart phone mirroring? It's 100% legal.
You can still shake your fist if you want. That's your opinion which is fine.

Nope never heard of it, I live in the real world. Justify your negligence any way you want

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Nope never heard of it, I live in the real world. Justify your negligence any way you want

Real world? Is that code name for the 1960s?

It's pretty whack. You will be driving and like magic out of nowhere a voice will speak and say whatever the alert is as you are approaching. Then on the screen it will have two 'buttons' to either confirm the alert is still active or it is no longer relevant. You can also ignore it completely and not give any feedback.
It's about as dangerous as listening to the radio and then changing the preset channel.

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Well there might be but the first person here who can throw up evidence they've been fined for sitting in the right lane at under the limit I'll shout em a pint when I'm in their capital city next.

This is actually policed in NSW occasionally. I know someone who was done for it.