what E-series ford I6 will beat a VN V6 auto? - Page 4

16wantsI6 · 30-10-2006, 12:39 AM

oh yeah thats right, didnt they come with multipoint?

XR Martin · 30-10-2006, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

oh yeah thats right, didnt they come with multipoint?

Article quotes MPi for the manual, and TBi for the auto.

XR8-260 · 30-10-2006, 12:51 AM

16 flat for the VN auto is bloody quick thats about par with the 3.6 Alloytec VZ and VE - cars which develop 175kw and 180kw respectively.

XR8-260 · 30-10-2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ea_boss_05

Got some figures from wheels September 1988

VN man - 400m 15.6 - 0-100 7.6
VN auto - 400m 16.0 - 0-100 8.3
EA man - 400m 15.5 0-100 7.8
no times for the multi-point auto

I knew keeping all those mags would come in handy one day.

What are the figures for the VN V8?

5L · 30-10-2006, 01:49 AM

who cares

HOON69 · 30-10-2006, 03:29 PM

VN's are the most over rated crap boxes out of the holden range
yeah they are 200 or something kilos lighter etc but come on

place a EA 5 speed against a 5 speed VN and i bet a good e series driver will win hands down.

auto Vs auto the VN has the better gbox imho ;)

Full Spectrum · 03-11-2006, 12:21 AM

This is my brothers old car forsale. I was looking at a EF in another thread and thought i might look it up you never know and here it is. They have removed the 18" XR options and painted the motor purple

But it still looks mint as he had it.
Brothers Old EFII Fairmont

eed-250 · 03-11-2006, 01:41 PM

Your bro had 180rwkw from a stock 6? did he think the supercharger was the alternator or something

Full Spectrum · 03-11-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eed-250

Your bro had 180rwkw from a stock 6? did he think the supercharger was the alternator or something

If your going too be a smart ****, At least gets the facts right. I never claimed 180rwkw.

smoo · 04-11-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 30487256

What are the figures for the VN V8?

I've got an old Wheels from April 89 and they reckon the VN V8 auto was the fastest current sedan in the world.... but they forgot about BMWs V12 750 and European model 560SEL Benz which would have raped anything from Holden then.

Anyway they got 7.0 0-100 and 15.1 1/4 mile, with a best gas figure of 20.9 l/100km. They never managed to beat or come close to that figure afterwards, sounds familiar.

With the exception of the Group A and a few hot HSV models, VNs are up there with Civics, just laugh and shake your head. Nice when they came out, the biggest pieces of shyte now, if they havent fallen to bits.

XR8-260 · 04-11-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smoo

I've got an old Wheels from April 89 and they reckon the VN V8 auto was the fastest current sedan in the world....

Cheers

But wouldn't the manual be faster?

smoo · 04-11-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 30487256

Cheers

But wouldn't the manual be faster?

That was the manual I quoted, the auto Calais got 7.9 and 15.4

Full Spectrum · 05-11-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by smoo

I've got an old Wheels from April 89 and they reckon the VN V8 auto was the fastest current sedan in the world.... but they forgot about BMWs V12 750 and European model 560SEL Benz which would have raped anything from Holden then.

Anyway they got 7.0 0-100 and 15.1 1/4 mile, with a best gas figure of 20.9 l/100km. They never managed to beat or come close to that figure afterwards, sounds familiar.

With the exception of the Group A and a few hot HSV models, VNs are up there with Civics, just laugh and shake your head. Nice when they came out, the biggest pieces of shyte now, if they havent fallen to bits.

Theres a guy on justcommodores forum he has been here before, He owns a VN V6 Auto and a VP V8 Auto. the V6 run a best under 7 seconds 100 on a g-tech system. And the V8 ran a 5.95 100 g-tech also. Both are stock internally and don't have any bolt ons just ECU advanced tunes.

19-11-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

Theres a guy on justcommodores forum he has been here before, He owns a VN V6 Auto and a VP V8 Auto. the V6 run a best under 7 seconds 100 on a g-tech system. And the V8 ran a 5.95 100 g-tech also. Both are stock internally and don't have any bolt ons just ECU advanced tunes.

IMHO a g-tech is not a true time, go to a strip with a proper timing setup and you got proof on the time sheet. My 99 Sports Magna (3.5V6, 5spd, extractors, exhaust) ran a time of 14.93 at 107mph, but they claim a 0-100km/h time of 8.2secs, I have never been beaten by a V6 Vn manual or auto, so I dont see how they could have a time of 7secs........ unless done on a g-tec. lol

And a V8 time of 5.95??? Beaten quite a few of them too. 5.95.... hahah that's like MY02 WRX times..... never heard of a VN V8 or not doing a WRX, have you?

Luke

Full Spectrum · 19-11-2006, 08:43 PM

You open a thread that has been dead too say that shit?

19-11-2006, 08:48 PM

looks like it, and?

Couldnt help it, I despise VN's

Full Spectrum · 19-11-2006, 08:49 PM

Good reason hey

GXL078 · 19-11-2006, 09:07 PM

My brother's bosses, sister had a VN form new. That thing would spin the wheels on tar, dry tar. Im serious. No BS, like most of this thread, ha ha ha LOL. The relative merits of two shitboxes.

Full Spectrum · 19-11-2006, 09:10 PM

If your interested. Eflad.
The VN v6 auro. doing 7.16. first one he did http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwiHG6CCq2U

And his VP V8. doing a 6.05.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by-sj9jAUGk

But honest you got too know this guy and what he does before questioning him, He's very good in tuning there ecu's and has so for many for nothing.

19-11-2006, 09:23 PM

I would but being on dialup and 33.6 dialup at that, its useless.
Damn bush phone exchanges!!!

Full Spectrum · 19-11-2006, 09:31 PM

33.6

I'm 22k:P
You should look into i-burst wireless Internet, I am at the moment i must be the only person in a ground floor home in a major city that cant get adsl or cable internet.

mcflux · 19-11-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EFLAD79

IMHO a g-tech is not a true time, go to a strip with a proper timing setup and you got proof on the time sheet. My 99 Sports Magna (3.5V6, 5spd, extractors, exhaust) ran a time of 14.93 at 107mph, but they claim a 0-100km/h time of 8.2secs, I have never been beaten by a V6 Vn manual or auto, so I dont see how they could have a time of 7secs........ unless done on a g-tec. lol

And a V8 time of 5.95??? Beaten quite a few of them too. 5.95.... hahah that's like MY02 WRX times..... never heard of a VN V8 or not doing a WRX, have you?

Luke

107mph from a magna? :hihi:

The 14.93 I believe, but that mph seems way out

19-11-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

107mph from a magna? :hihi:

The 14.93 I believe, but that mph seems way out

Your quite right, just searched through my desk(mrs gonna kill me shit everywhere now) and found the slip, it was actually 14.953@155.2km/h (which is 97mph, was close to the mark).

Now what would It take to get my EF futura up to this kinda speed? Forced induction would be best yeah?

Luke

gthofan · 19-11-2006, 10:37 PM

thats about 140rwkw u will need

19-11-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

thats about 140rwkw u will need

Any idea on stock @wheels pwr figures for EF's?

DOWN4U · 20-11-2006, 12:57 AM

i own both a Vn 5 spd (110,000km) and an ef series 2, both bog stock.

there is no way in the world the falcon could keep up.

Full Spectrum · 20-11-2006, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EFLAD79

Any idea on stock @wheels pwr figures for EF's?

157fwkw, Guess 115-125rwkw??.
You need too work on getting the car moving faster off the mark that's the weakness.

5L · 20-11-2006, 02:05 AM

down4u- yeah well you are comparing a commodore manual to falcon autos.
how about comparing commodore manual to falcon manual.
the commodore would be the one not keeping up.

g-tech times are rubbish how slow is that v6 really just dies when it gets to second

Full Spectrum · 20-11-2006, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eb5speed

g-tech times are rubbish how slow is that v6 really just dies when it gets to second

It's called taking the foot off the peddle:P

Cespenar · 20-11-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

yeah but have aggresive diff ratios and weigh next to nothing...

Actally .... Vn,s all have a 3.08 diff ratio. Many Falcons have a far more agressive ratio than that. The problem is... tadaaaa... Falcons weigh 400 kilograms more.
Funny that with all that extra tin they bend just as easily though (when they hit a tree).
Last week i tried my old VN Auto Calais (diff: 3.08:1)against my 99 AU Ghia (diff:3.45:1) and geuss what, the old VN with 250,000 klm on the clock won.
There is a better thing for the really heavy Ghia though. It goes up hills better than the old Calais. So some of it is good. Ford is comfyer as well.