Why do people keep buying VE commodores? - Page 5

Joe5619 · 30-10-2012, 07:11 PM

What makes me laugh is that people actually think one is that much better (or worse) than the other to a point where the other shouldn't be bought!! I mean, cooommmmeeee oooonnnnn take your glasses off for god sake!!

And P.S. I personally think the Mazda 3 is ugly. Yes I'm in the minor group, but looks are subjective!!

flooded one · 30-10-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

What makes me laugh is that people actually think one is that much better (or worse) than the other to a point where the other shouldn't be bought!! I mean, cooommmmeeee oooonnnnn take your glasses off for god sake!!

And P.S. I personally think the Mazda 3 is ugly. Yes I'm in the minor group, but looks are subjective!!

dont worry i think they are too!! that front end looks like its smiling at me!!! lol

stevz · 30-10-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

What makes me laugh is that people actually think one is that much better (or worse) than the other to a point where the other shouldn't be bought!! I mean, cooommmmeeee oooonnnnn take your glasses off for god sake!!

And P.S. I personally think the Mazda 3 is ugly. Yes I'm in the minor group, but looks are subjective!!

Good post, and I totally agree about the Mazda 3, I think it's a ridiculously stupid looking car.

RAPID_BA · 30-10-2012, 09:25 PM

The Mazda 3 isn't the top selling car because it's ugly.

gtxb67 · 30-10-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPID_BA

The Mazda 3 isn't the top selling car because it's ugly.

it didn't stop the commode dore

BENT_8 · 30-10-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blueovalfan.com

That would not surprise me at all. The trouble is, if they buy another brand they could also be buying the shonky work from that manufacturers workers.

. Another unverifiable fact but a mate of mine claims he read somewhere that the best cars to buy are the ones made mid-week, Tuesday to Thursday. Because on Monday the workers are depressed about getting back to work and recovering from the weekend, and on Friday's their mind is on getting the heck out of here for the weekend!

That ol' chestnut has been making the rounds since cocky was an egg.

Quite plausible in days gone bye, but i doubt it would be the case in 2012 with robots and QC.

svo supporter · 31-10-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

What makes me laugh is that people actually think one is that much better (or worse) than the other to a point where the other shouldn't be bought!! I mean, cooommmmeeee oooonnnnn take your glasses off for god sake!!

And P.S. I personally think the Mazda 3 is ugly. Yes I'm in the minor group, but looks are subjective!!

Of course, asking a question about an opposition brand is going to get favourable comments around here.....Seriously doubt it

Struggo · 31-10-2012, 07:08 PM

I have driven had all 3 Aussie made large cars during the last 5 years, thus to be honest my Falcon experience is not the best.

Toyota Aurion
Issues = 0

Holden VE Commodore (Alloytech)
Issues = 0

FG Falcon XR50
Issues = Various dash rattles, air swoosh (when revved hard) near passenger side air bag/glove box, bagding coming off, dirt under paint, exhaust noise now at 70,000km (I suspect cat convertor), warped glove box, front passenger door hinge became loose, rear spoiler became loose, worn drivers side rubber seal (inner door) and so on.

Sure the Falcon wins on drive train, but in terms of build quality, average is understatement.

Nikked · 31-10-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggo

I have driven had all 3 Aussie made large cars during the last 5 years, thus to be honest my Falcon experience is not the best.

Toyota Aurion
Issues = 0

Holden VE Commodore (Alloytech)
Issues = 0

FG Falcon XR50
Issues = Various dash rattles, air swoosh (when revved hard) near passenger side air bag/glove box, bagding coming off, dirt under paint, exhaust noise now at 70,000km (I suspect cat convertor), warped glove box, front passenger door hinge became loose, rear spoiler became loose, worn drivers side rubber seal (inner door) and so on.

Sure the Falcon wins on drive train, but in terms of build quality, average is understatement.

of course it did...

flooded one · 31-10-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggo

I have driven had all 3 Aussie made large cars during the last 5 years, thus to be honest my Falcon experience is not the best.

Toyota Aurion
Issues = 0

Holden VE Commodore (Alloytech)
Issues = 0

FG Falcon XR50
Issues = Various dash rattles, air swoosh (when revved hard) near passenger side air bag/glove box, bagding coming off, dirt under paint, exhaust noise now at 70,000km (I suspect cat convertor), warped glove box, front passenger door hinge became loose, rear spoiler became loose, worn drivers side rubber seal (inner door) and so on.

Sure the Falcon wins on drive train, but in terms of build quality, average is understatement.

interior quality could be better on the FG XR6 i took for a drive!!! besides that i was happy with it. same with the commodores interior. the one i think that was built the best was the aurion. when it comes too performance and handling the falcon wins hands down. my mate has an aurion and let me drive it one day as i was asking him how it went!!! it didnt handle as well as the XR6 but i tell you they are bloody responsive!!! I was rather impressed with it!! I would actually own one!! the VE SV6 would of been better if it knew what bloody gear it wanted to be in!! I think if i ever owned a commodore it would have too be a manual.

Edit too be fair the XR6 was a hire car and so was the SV6 but as i have mentioned before i havent driven too many auto commodores that dont hunt gears and go on!!!

**DJM83** · 31-10-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPID_BA

The Mazda 3 isn't the top selling car because it's ugly.

I can assure you the Mazda 3 IS ugly. Thats fact

See what i did there?

duaned · 31-10-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

I can assure you the Mazda 3 IS ugly. Thats fact

Women love the look of the Mazda 3. They say they are "cute". Now this confirms why I have always wondered, why beautiful women are always seen with ugly blokes.
So it seems these blokes actually do have something in common with the Mazda 3! The ability to attract hot chicks!

galaxy xr8 · 31-10-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duaned

Women love the look of the Mazda 3. They say they are "cute". Now this confirms why I have always wondered, why beautiful women are always seen with ugly blokes.
So it seems these blokes actually do have something in common with the Mazda 3! The ability to attract hot chicks!

Hey!!! you saying I'm ugly.

**Silver Ghia** · 31-10-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggo

I have driven had all 3 Aussie made large cars during the last 5 years, thus to be honest my Falcon experience is not the best.

Toyota Aurion
Issues = 0

Holden VE Commodore (Alloytech)
Issues = 0

FG Falcon XR50
Issues = Various dash rattles, air swoosh (when revved hard) near passenger side air bag/glove box, bagding coming off, dirt under paint, exhaust noise now at 70,000km (I suspect cat convertor), warped glove box, front passenger door hinge became loose, rear spoiler became loose, worn drivers side rubber seal (inner door) and so on.

Sure the Falcon wins on drive train, but in terms of build quality, average is understatement.

With a whole sample of one of each for a short drive. What sort of comparison is that?

For the record, my FG XR50 over two years now has had zero issues, including nil rattles, air noise and the other issues you mentioned. And I'm fussy.

Bossxr8 · 31-10-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blueovalfan.com

That would not surprise me at all. The trouble is, if they buy another brand they could also be buying the shonky work from that manufacturers workers.

. Another unverifiable fact but a mate of mine claims he read somewhere that the best cars to buy are the ones made mid-week, Tuesday to Thursday. Because on Monday the workers are depressed about getting back to work and recovering from the weekend, and on Friday's their mind is on getting the heck out of here for the weekend!

Thats a total myth, as most parts of the car are built at different times. The engine, gearbox, diff, panels, electronics etc would all be built at different times, the shell is welded together and then gets painted where it sits for a few days until it dries, then on to final assembly.

So very little of the car is assembled at one time.

Struggo · 31-10-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

With a whole sample of one of each for a short drive. What sort of comparison is that?

For the record, my FG XR50 over two years now has had zero issues, including nil rattles, air noise and the other issues you mentioned. And I'm fussy.

Mate don't get me wrong, I love the way she drives. But all the niggles are now becoming a real pain in the .......

To put it into perspective I had the following cars for,

Toyota Aurion (20,000km)

Holden VE Commodore (Alloytech) (40,000km)

FG Falcon XR50 (78,000km and counting)

JC807 · 31-10-2012, 09:31 PM

our next car will probably be a VE v8 wagon or FG turbo sedan.

I've found our BF to be ok, its now got 70,000km and starting to rattle a bit, but the roads are terrible around here and the Bilsteins are a little harsh (awesome on a good road).
I'd like to spend some time in FGs with similar kms to see how they are faring up.

Bossxr8 · 31-10-2012, 10:12 PM

FG's have the highest quality ratings of any Falcon, and they are rated better than both the VE and Aurion according to the manufacturers internal TGW ratings.

But don't let the thruth get in the way of a good story ie. Falcon quality is crap

RAPID_BA · 31-10-2012, 10:22 PM

The falcon hasn't always been pretty to look at but if we exclude the ea series it always been a pretty rugged dependable car. Cabbies would be jumping on aurion or ve if they were more durable.

Resurrection · 31-10-2012, 10:45 PM

Q. Why do people keep buying VE commodores
A. Because they are Australian like football, meatpies and kangaroos.

Lefkad · 01-11-2012, 12:05 AM

When I was looking at buying my car, I was pretty much set on getting a commodore. My older cousin had indoctrinated me with his VT Calais and then VY SS.

I took one for a drive and absolutely hated it. For me the driving position was awful and the pedals felt like you could park an oil tanker between them.

Going away disapointed, I then went and drove a BA falcon, a newer generation car that would cost the same price and fell in love. Perfect driving position (for my small size).

Loved everything about it except the lack of rear traction but bypassed that by getting one with traction control.

I think people buy the VE because they see at as a much more significant upgrade over the VZ then a FG to a BA. The VE looks completely different wheras although mainly new parts, the FG retains the same shape/stance as older generations.
I must admit, the VE commodore SV6/SS/HSV's do look really good and the LS engines sound amazing

GCRXR6 · 01-11-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

With a whole sample of one of each for a short drive. What sort of comparison is that?

For the record, my FG XR50 over two years now has had zero issues, including nil rattles, air noise and the other issues you mentioned. And I'm fussy.

Ditto

flooded one · 01-11-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Resurrection

Q. Why do people keep buying VE commodores
A. Because they are Australian like football, meatpies and kangaroos.

and daewoo cars!!

4.0i_SiX · 01-11-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by duaned

Women love the look of the Mazda 3. They say they are "cute". Now this confirms why I have always wondered, why beautiful women are always seen with ugly blokes.
So it seems these blokes actually do have something in common with the Mazda 3! The ability to attract hot chicks!

joolz · 01-11-2012, 05:02 PM

Id buy a Commodore if they ever get better than a Falcon!!

svo supporter · 01-11-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPID_BA

The falcon hasn't always been pretty to look at but if we exclude the ea series it always been a pretty rugged dependable car. Cabbies would be jumping on aurion or ve if they were more durable.

Around Radelaide, I see Falcons, Commodores, Aurion (which is a 6cyl Camry), Camry's ,Prius and new hybrid Camry's as cabs.

The BF and FG Falcon and VE Commodores are very common....It's only the last 6 months or so, the Toyotas have become a little more common.

So that's not true round my neck of the woods and I work near 2 cab repairers and drive past a 3rd on the way to and from work.

svo supporter · 01-11-2012, 05:59 PM

If any one has ever driven a TRD Aurion, they wouldn't say they're crap....They'd leave a Turbo BAXR6 behind....Only issue with them is they torque steer like a bastard when served the R/H foot....

Franco Cozzo · 01-11-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by duaned

Women love the look of the Mazda 3. They say they are "cute". Now this confirms why I have always wondered, why beautiful women are always seen with ugly blokes.
So it seems these blokes actually do have something in common with the Mazda 3! The ability to attract hot chicks!

Hasn't done me any favours, maybe I need the Mazda 3?

**DJM83** · 01-11-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPID_BA

The falcon hasn't always been pretty to look at but if we exclude the ea series it always been a pretty rugged dependable car. Cabbies would be jumping on aurion or ve if they were more durable.

Nope, up here they dont have any of those, its all Prius, Hybrid Camrys, Passat wagons. I reckon they outnumber falcon cabs 6 to 1.

IceValk85 · 01-11-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

If any one has ever driven a TRD Aurion, they wouldn't say they're crap....They'd leave a Turbo BAXR6 behind....Only issue with them is they torque steer like a bastard when served the R/H foot....

Id LOVE to own a TRD aurion.

the sound they make with induction mods is fantastic.

torque steer you into a tree at moments notice tho lol

Ice