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16-04-2020, 04:54 PM | #1711 | ||
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And, so long as you grab some essential supplies whilst your there its not a problem.
If you're on your way to get a haircut and get pulled over you don't tell them you're on your way to get a haircut, you say I need bread and milk and whilst im there i'll get a haircut next door at the hairdresser, you've met the essential needs criteria in the intention to get bread and milk. Now, if you got pulled over on the way home and said I went for bread and milk, got a haircut and have no bread and milk to show, you've got a problem. Just align your need for a haircut with a need to leave home for an essential reason. Is this really that hard to understand or are people just being awkward for the sake of being awkward. |
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16-04-2020, 04:54 PM | #1712 | |||
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16-04-2020, 05:03 PM | #1713 | |||
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This isn't 'Murica, Aussies don't do jack **** but bitch and whinge on social media forums, but im sure they'd be naïve enough to think if they keep it up long enough it'll get noticed. |
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16-04-2020, 05:09 PM | #1714 | ||
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CB wrote.....I’m insisting on advance emails from clients, that relate to longer journeys, and carrying a print of it on the passenger seat. A bit tedious but harder to dispute.
That is what vehicle signwriting is for if you are obviously working. Hard to dispute. (No everyone, don't go out and buy stick on bogus business names on your cars.)
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16-04-2020, 05:22 PM | #1715 | |||
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16-04-2020, 05:22 PM | #1716 | ||
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16-04-2020, 06:16 PM | #1717 | ||
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The push-pull of “How long will restrictions actually last in Australia?” continues.
NSW police head, last week - 90 days NSW Premier, last week - may lift restrictions next month PM today - at least four more weeks FC should be running a book on it. Unrelated, but since it was mentioned: Romulus, best wishes to your mother for her surgery - it’s a more daunting prospect now. |
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16-04-2020, 06:28 PM | #1718 | |||
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In all honesty, I didn't think we'd be doing so well in such a short space of time, but then again Winter isn't here yet so as i said pages ago, we've been fairly lucky from a timing sense, however, I think it's still too early to claim a victory and get back to normal. I think a lot of it is testament to our medical hierarchy and us and despite the things we can look at with hindsight as deficiencies with the systems, for the most part it's been handled fairly well. People just need to calm down. |
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16-04-2020, 06:28 PM | #1719 | |||
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Restrictions will stay, not for a set time period but rather until certain conditions are met in society i.e. no new infections for x amount of days etc. It's impossible to set a time limit on it. By doing so you just set yourself up. The PM mentions a timeframe simply to let people know this isn't a short term thing. If we come out quicker than anticipated all well and good. This is why the PM (federal govt) never went to full lockdown. He understood whatever restrictions got put in place they had to be sustainable long term. Why state govts were allowed to push their own agenda is a puzzle however the east coast are more heavily populated than the rest so there is a case there.
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16-04-2020, 06:47 PM | #1720 | |||
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16-04-2020, 07:25 PM | #1721 | |||
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16-04-2020, 07:50 PM | #1722 | |||
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The restrictions don't really effect me too much personally - it got me out of seeing the extended family over Easter this year which was very nice, I usually spend Easter in Adelaide away from them all
I'm yet to have involvement with the police even though I've been on the road more than ever for work, but I've been on my best behavior on the roads because there's a lot less people and it seems many more police all over our freeways at the moment Do the restrictions effect me personally? Only a little, its just curbed the weekends, I'm not fussed on the effects on my own life but I don't agree with how Victoria Police has handled the situation. Yes our State Government have had to do some 'policy on the run' to initially bring it under control and there is an appeal system. The whole idea about an appeal system is for extraordinary circumstances or a review, having an appeal system isn't a substitute for crappy legislation and authoritarian enforcement and then put the onus on the person faced with the massive fine to have it overturned when there is no accountability on the people handing them out. Its a backwards way of addressing a problem, you need to address the problem at the beginning, not work from the result backwards and push everyone into the appeal system, don't **** it up royally in the first place. I have issues with largely ambiguous legislation but I understand we cannot have it so refined and to the point, but that's not what I'm asking for. If you want an example of ambiguous legislation you can harness as a weapon, I'm sure everyone has come across a unionised workplace where the health and safety rep uses Section 21 of the OHS Act 2004 as a nuclear weapon and cause dramas on their beck and call, you can just about get anyone on a contravention of s21 and disrupt a workplace or tie up management with a bureaucratic nightmare: Quote:
Keep the $1600 fine, keep the restrictions but have some accountability over the questionable fines, if you keep slipping up like this then there should be repercussions, just like any other person is held to account everywhere else in our jobs. Then there's the whole you can only do A,B C and D and everything else is banned, but hold up we can still run the horse racing industry and now real estate inspections are allowed but everyone else is still out of work and can't do anything? Or initially Crown Casino was let off the hook until Victorians started questioning everyone else being shut down except Crown Casino and its epic gambling facilities being allowed to run? The State Government and Victoria Police need to do better, its not a case of needing more resources, its a case of using the existing resources you have more efficiently. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 16-04-2020 at 07:58 PM. |
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16-04-2020, 08:18 PM | #1723 | ||
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At the end of the day despite what beliefs you have about the virus and how the government(s) are handling it, we have a sector of fellow Australians in various occupations who found themselves out of work virtually overnight through no fault of their own.
If staying at home as often as possible is what is needed to maximise the chances of restrictions easing, and getting them back into employment, then I am happy to comply with no complaints. It is the least the people with unaffected occupations can do. Joe Public can make this happen quickly or drag it out for months and months longer than necessary. We owe it to these people to get them back as soon as possible.
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16-04-2020, 08:22 PM | #1724 | ||
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Hope things go well as they can. Similar concerns here for my good mate on his chemo, fortunately one week past the final dose for now.
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16-04-2020, 08:24 PM | #1725 | |||
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16-04-2020, 08:43 PM | #1726 | ||
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16-04-2020, 08:55 PM | #1727 | ||
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Lets not forget, it wasn't until the Bondi Beach incident that Govco started tightening the screws and then a week later we see St Kilda put on its own show despite the fallout of Bondi, the writing was on the wall but people still pushed the boundaries.
There's no doubt the Vic Police in particular have been on a mission, but from the outside looking in it would appear as though they we're just pushing back with authority and have now been asked to show some discretion. You only have to take notice of many of the questions asked of what can and cant be done through various platforms to see that people still don't want to accept the reality of it and are still looking to find loopholes or test the measures. As Cyber alluded to, just suck it up, let it runs its course and we'll all be back sledging each other at the footy or in the parity thread in no time. |
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16-04-2020, 09:35 PM | #1728 | |||
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16-04-2020, 09:49 PM | #1729 | |||
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With hindsight im sure they'd have handled it differently, they cant really retract any of it now, damned if they do, damned if they don't, but something common in these situations are those that swing in late with 20/20 hindsight and proclaim how it could have been done better. |
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16-04-2020, 10:08 PM | #1730 | |||
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16-04-2020, 11:22 PM | #1731 | ||
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perhaps they would have been better off growing up with no parents and no economy?
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17-04-2020, 12:46 AM | #1732 | |||
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In my mind they should be shouted down for the weak thinking behind them. But you do you and grab onto that recent excuse of virtue signalling to dismiss any negative feedback. Snowflakes love that insta-excuse. |
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17-04-2020, 12:52 AM | #1733 | ||
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Curious Romulus?.... If and when there’s a vaccine available for Covid19 will you get immunised? (Or will that also be an invasion of your civil liberties?)
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17-04-2020, 08:11 AM | #1735 | |||
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17-04-2020, 08:14 AM | #1736 | |||
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17-04-2020, 08:18 AM | #1737 | |||
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Chances are, I'd probably have natural immunity to this virus before this vaccine is available.
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17-04-2020, 08:35 AM | #1738 | |||
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Both my wife and myself are in some of the most high level public face to face interaction jobs left remaining, our 15 month old son goes to daycare as we both have no option of working at home, putting our family in a “high risk” situation, either of us could bring the virus home as could our son to us. To compound this issue due to being unable to secure further daycare our son goes to his Nanna’s atleast once a week also exposing her to potential risk. I’m not having a whinge, I’m very thankful to not be in a financially stressful position but at the same time if I buy into the rhetoric we are being forced to choose between our family’s health. Mental health is a massive issue for the population under normal circumstances, ongoing unemployment causing drug and alcohol abuse, domestic pressures and suicides if we don’t start progressing to getting the country back to work these things are set to take a bigger toll than the virus itself. I have nothing but time for the older generation and would hope when transitioning to a less restrictive environment that they would continue to take further self restrictive measures to stay safe, the same comment would go for those out there in the community that drink heavily, smoke, do recreational drugs, don’t exercise and have obesity induced health conditions. I have no doubt it will be a long while before we are fully back to “Normal” But I’m very relieved to see Scomo come out talking about moving to a less restrictive model. I don’t think having a view where asking those who are considered vulnerable need to take some personal responsibility for their health management makes you a psychopath, personally I would consider risking our children’s economic future due to ongoing lockdowns protecting people indefinitely to be absolute insanity. |
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17-04-2020, 08:43 AM | #1739 | ||
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Back to a more sanguine mental status- or so I had hoped.
Been couped up and going a little nuts over the last few weeks with work and all this stuff and not being able to get out and about pressure has been building up causing me to release steam -unfortunately with some brain fade moments. Came to me today gotta try to let off steam by exercise. Decided to go and do some laps in the ocean pool at lunchtime in Newcastle. But then researched Covid 19- seems it can live days in water and in that 10 to 25 degrees zone it thrives, and in open water there is a risk of transmission via person infected/faecal material etc. Now, imagine swimming in ocean pool, with water having Covid 19. Doing laps that water goes into ears, nose, and you do occasionally get a drop or two of water going into your mouth and down your throat. Closed chemical pools are fine with chlorine and chemical dosing- it kills covid 19. Surprised ocean pools allow people to do laps and exercise. Ah well- will have to dust off my bike over the weekend.
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