Even hotter Kia Stinger in the works

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by adz137

That was a good read. It hit 60mph in 4.9 sec which would equate to 100km in the low 5 seconds bracket. So its as quick as our XR6 turbos, i dont like the way it looks and i would never consider buying one but you gotta be impressed with those figures.

Not really, it's 2017 and it's a brand new design with a turbo v6 with 8 speed auto .

[chrisandsharon]

9 outa 10 for review with car advice......

http://www.caradvice.com.au/559261/2...tinger-review/

Will look great as a highway patrol vehicle.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

Not really, it's 2017 and it's a brand new design with a turbo v6 with 8 speed auto .

Yes with more stringent emission requirements, and all done with better fuel economy...

[Chopped]

Any car that can reach 100kph in around 5 secs is quick.
Especially when compared to most of the vehicles on the road.

I think the Stinger could sell quite well. I'm guessing Mustang sales numbers or just above.

[Whitey-AMG]

The KIaNG is dead.... long live Hyundai....lols
Interesting funnel of cars coming through, that's for sure.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/542574/g...m_content=news

[Vesper Martini]

Nothing against the G70 looks to be a great car, but its slightly smaller & lighter than the Stinger, with the same power plant options this would equate to being slightly quicker?
It has a more Luxury target though so I imagine a softer setup and higher price tag.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Nothing against the G70 looks to be a great car, but its slightly smaller & lighter than the Stinger, with the same power plant options this would equate to being slightly quicker?
It has a more Luxury target though so I imagine a softer setup and higher price tag.

Quite the opposite actually. If you read the article :

"The Stinger is a five-door touring sedan with a hatch, while the G70 is a pure sports sedan."

Sure it may be priced higher but may be worth the extra coin as it sounds to be better sorted and proportioned with better performance out of the box.

[Bossxr8]

Hyundai have said they will never do an N performance version of a Genisus, as it's a luxury vehicle. So I would say it will be set up much differently to a Stinger.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Quite the opposite actually. If you read the article :

"The Stinger is a five-door touring sedan with a hatch, while the G70 is a pure sports sedan."

Sure it may be priced higher but may be worth the extra coin as it sounds to be better sorted and proportioned with better performance out of the box.

I appreciate what was quoted from the article. but you only have to look at the Stinger to know its more of a sports car.

The G70 is still a Genesis. luxury buyer target market

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

I appreciate what was quoted from the article. but you only have to look at the Stinger to know its more of a sports car.

The G70 is still a Genesis. luxury buyer target market

"To know it's more of a sports car " ?

How so.
The G70 will be smaller , lighter and have a higher tune on the twin turbo V6 than the Stinger. It may be aimed at the "higher end" of the market but that doesn't make it less of a sports car ? G80 and G90 will be the bigger platform Luxo barges.

Stinger may have more vents and shinier wheels.....

[Chopped]

Lets not forget that KIA have already stated there is a hotter version of the Stinger in the works.

How surreal that soon there will be people bragging that their Hyundai is faster than a KIA and vice versa, almost leading to a Falcon / Commodore style rivalry.
Very different times ahead.

[CyberWasp]

Meanwhile we only hear the sound of Crickets chirping from Chrysler / Dodge.

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

"To know it's more of a sports car " ?

How so.
The G70 will be smaller , lighter and have a higher tune on the twin turbo V6 than the Stinger. It may be aimed at the "higher end" of the market but that doesn't make it less of a sports car ? G80 and G90 will be the bigger platform Luxo barges.

Stinger may have more vents and shinier wheels.....

You only have to look historically how their cars are tuned.
Kia cars are tuned to be stiffer and taut with a sportier feel. Hyundai are on the other end and more plush/focused on comfort in their ride and handling.
Its in their brief, its in their DNA.

Pro_Ceed GT vs Veloster
Optima GT vs Sonata Turbo
Sportage vs Tucson
Sorento vs Santa Fe
Cerato vs i30

This will be no different for Stinger vs G70

The fact that Genesis is a Luxury Brand means the comfort/plush focus would be even greater..

Hyundai's N division is apparently a different story......Lets see how they go with the i30. No localisations of these as its Biermanns baby

But as said - they will never do an N division of Genesis cars

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

You only have to look historically how their cars are tuned.
Kia cars are tuned to be stiffer and taut with a sportier feel. Hyundai are on the other end and more plush/focused on comfort in their ride and handling.
Its in their brief, its in their DNA.

Pro_Ceed GT vs Veloster
Optima GT vs Sonata Turbo
Sportage vs Tucson
Sorento vs Santa Fe
Cerato vs i30

This will be no different for Stinger vs G70

The fact that Genesis is a Luxury Brand means the comfort/plush focus would be even greater..

Hyundai's N division is apparently a different story......Lets see how they go with the i30. No localisations of these as its Biermanns baby

But as said - they will never do an N division of Genesis cars

Aren't Kia and Hyundai the same company though. They have a very interesting approach of having two different players in every segment which share platforms but have different top hats so joe average would never pick it

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Aren't Kia and Hyundai the same company though. They have a very interesting approach of having two different players in every segment which share platforms but have different top hats so joe average would never pick it

Yes, same same. But different.
Different briefs when it comes to design and tuning of their cars.

Kia globally is the fun, sporty and youthful company
Hyundai globally (the biger sister) is the more mature of the brand

[FalconXV]

http://performancedrive.com.au/artis...ger-gt-r-2922/

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

Yes, same same. But different.
Different briefs when it comes to design and tuning of their cars.

Kia globally is the fun, sporty and youthful company
Hyundai globally (the biger sister) is the more mature of the brand

Kind of but the parent company doesn't dictate how hey need to be different. They consider themselves direct competitors, though will share chassis and power trains. They have their own R&D, marketing, and factories.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

"To know it's more of a sports car " ?

How so.
The G70 will be smaller , lighter and have a higher tune on the twin turbo V6 than the Stinger. It may be aimed at the "higher end" of the market but that doesn't make it less of a sports car ? G80 and G90 will be the bigger platform Luxo barges.

Stinger may have more vents and shinier wheels.....

Shall we adjourn till they are on showroom floors here.

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Meanwhile we only hear the sound of Crickets chirping from Chrysler / Dodge.

Still have the 300 SRT (for how long I don't know) and the MY17 Grand Cherokee SRT.. They have also green lit the Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (thing Grand Cherokee with 500+kw Hellcat motor) to come to Australia...

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by chevypower

Kind of but the parent company doesn't dictate how hey need to be different. They consider themselves direct competitors, though will share chassis and power trains. They have their own R&D, marketing, and factories.

Weird strategy. Cannabalism in a sense but it seems to work for them..

[Sioso]

I doubt I would buy one but I will be interested to see what tuning companies offer - there is a lot of potential there.
I think they will be the modern day Supra, 6 cylinders, 2 turbos, RWD and a sleek body.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Sioso

I doubt I would buy one but I will be interested to see what tuning companies offer - there is a lot of potential there.
I think they will be the modern day Supra, 6 cylinders, 2 turbos, RWD and a sleek body.

Question of how much over engineering was performed on the engine, Koreans aren't known for overengineering their products..

[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Question of how much over engineering was performed on the engine, Koreans aren't known for overengineering their products..

Agreed , paper specs look good and power is no issue with turbo charging (this apparently runs 18psi) . They will sell a few initially and then we will see how good they are long term.

[383hq]

Long term? good point

whilst the JD Powers 2017 initial quality study (90 days) has Kia #1 two years running,
Longer term the JD powers reliability study has Kia not up the pointy end.

10 of the 18 categories for long term dependability were taken by lexus and toyota.

JD powers are pretty much the go to reference for automotive reliability benchmarking in the states,

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by 383hq

Long term? good point

whilst the JD Powers 2017 initial quality study (90 days) has Kia #1 two years running,
Longer term the JD powers reliability study has Kia not up the pointy end.

10 of the 18 categories for long term dependability were taken by lexus and toyota.

JD powers are pretty much the go to reference for automotive reliability benchmarking in the states,

About 5 years ago, they ranked much lower on initial quality, so presumably the data we see "long term" is from when initial quality ranked lower.

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by chevypower

Kind of but the parent company doesn't dictate how hey need to be different. They consider themselves direct competitors, though will share chassis and power trains. They have their own R&D, marketing, and factories.

There is a reason why Kia no longer do commercial vehicles.....And it's all about politics within the Hyundai Motor Group. This is one of many decisions that dictate how they need to be different. In terms of R&D, the two brands share teams who work on the chassis, drive trains and ride and handling....design they have separate teams that are not shared (although the share facilities) same with marketing (but only within the last 15 years or so). They do have separate factories, but the major ones are shared facilities.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Agreed , paper specs look good and power is no issue with turbo charging (this apparently runs 18psi) . They will sell a few initially and then we will see how good they are long term.

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Question of how much over engineering was performed on the engine, Koreans aren't known for overengineering their products..

7 year warranty? seem they think they engineer their cars pretty well better than most!
JP

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

7 year warranty? seem they think they engineer their cars pretty well better than most!
JP

Exactly jp, and the NEW buyers of these cars aren't likely to keep them beyond 7 years so extended longevity isn't much of an issue.

[csv8]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/574131/2...cing-revealed/

Start at $48,990 to $59,990 plus orc.

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by csv8

http://www.caradvice.com.au/574131/2...cing-revealed/

Start at $48,990 to $59,990 plus orc.

For the V6 twin Turbo