How multicultural is Holden? - Page 5

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

the r31 had the RB20DET as the performance motor - a much nicer motor

Not on the Australian market it didn't...

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

Watch the racing today Rick69? The Blue Cement Mixer Company had the winning cars again!!!

Oh, but what relevance do V8 supercars have with the road going versions.... That would be your usual argument if the Holdens won!!

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RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

....Where are the grammar police when you need them???

Same place the idiot police were, but , were here now, to deal with your uninvited rudeness! You sad little suicide poster.

Ryan · 14-08-2005, 10:35 PM

Um I can see this turning into a Holden vs Ford war.

Just so you guys know I place my hat in both camps meaning im un-biased when it comes to Ford or Holden

The Ford I6 and the RB30 are both great engines and both still have high potential to be the most powerful 6 Cylinders in Australia or the World.

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

Same place the idiot police were, but , were here now, to deal with your uninvited rudeness! You sad little suicide poster.

Nice to see you've got a photo of yourself in you avatar!!!

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RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

Oh, but what relevance do V8 supercars have with the road going versions.... That would be your usual argument if the Holdens won!!

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No my consistant arguement is you are a clueless idiot, here for no other reason than to make trouble. Its not the lions we dont like (though they aren't our preference), what we dont like is VL knob jockey coming in and spraying absolute nonsense..

The MaDDeSTMaN · 14-08-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

Compare the real life performance, not the (useless) on-paper figures

_ We drive cars after all, not pieces of paper.

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So you think torque is useless? :hihi:

I'm not "magazine racing" here, I'm simply trying to point out that the 250 I6 and the RB30 are completely different engines, while the RB30 might make more horsepower then the 250, I know which one would struggle less if it has a heavy load to pull along, thanks to having so much stump pulling torque.

Sorry, but you're showing your ignorance of what torque is and how important it is. There is more to life then the 1/4 mile, and there is more to an engine then peak horsepower... The 250 has a shedload of torque, all on tap, from just over 2000rpm. Compare the torque curve of the RB30 to the torque curve of the 250 I6, the shape of the curve, as well as the actual peak torque and where that peak is, then come back to this discussion when you're a little better informed and you won't make yourself look so silly...

Ryan · 14-08-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

the r31 had the RB20DET as the performance motor - a much nicer motor

Dont forget the VLs in NZ got the RB20Es.

And from what ive heard they arent as good as the RB30s.

Ryan · 14-08-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

No my consistant arguement is you are a clueless idiot, here for no other reason than to make trouble. Its not the lions we dont like (though they aren't our preference), what we dont like is VL knob jockey coming in and spraying absolute nonsense..

I hope you werent reffering to me as the VL knob jockey.

RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The MaDDeSTMaN

So you think torque is useless? :hihi:

I'm not "magazine racing" here, I'm simply trying to point out that the 250 I6 and the RB30 are completely different engines, while the RB30 might make more horsepower then the 250, I know which one would struggle less if it has a heavy load to pull along, thanks to having so much stump pulling torque...

He only pushes his VL , he has never been able to afford a heavier car to push!!

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The MaDDeSTMaN

So you think torque is useless? :hihi:

I'm not "magazine racing" here, I'm simply trying to point out that the 250 I6 and the RB30 are completely different engines, while the RB30 might make more horsepower then the 250, I know which one would struggle less if it has a heavy load to pull along, thanks to having so much stump pulling torque.

Sorry, but you're showing your ignorance of what torque is and how important it is. There is more to life then the 1/4 mile, and there is more to an engine then peak horsepower... The 250 has a shedload of torque, all on tap, from just over 2000rpm. Compare the torque curve of the RB30 to the torque curve of the 250 I6, the shape of the curve, as well as the actual peak torque and where that peak is, then come back to this discussion when you're a little better informed and you won't make yourself look so silly...

Hey, I never said torque was useless or irrellevant.... What I am saying is that even though the 4.1 I6 has a lot of torque on paper, it certainly does not feel like it in real life...

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

He only pushes his VL , he has never been able to afford a heavier car to push!!

I drive a VX buddy.... Don't get jealous just cause you drive a battered clapped out XD yobbomobile..

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RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

I drive a VX buddy.... Don't get jealous just cause you drive a battered clapped out XD yobbomobile..

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Mate I wouldn't take a XV up to the paper shop for a bet! Now isn't it time you took your dreams to bed, and let mummy back on the computer.. You know you have school in the morning.

Sourbastard · 14-08-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

Who cares if the RB30 is Japanese, when compared to the wheezy, gutless, breathless 4.1 I6 cement mixer, I know which one I'd rather have!

Barbie avatars are known to strike quickly and without warning, bringing pink fluffy justice to those that bring the wrath of casper down upon them.

Dissing the I6 is the fast lane to this place of suffering.

XplosiveR6 · 14-08-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VY18s

Dont forget the VLs in NZ got the RB20Es.

And from what ive heard they arent as good as the RB30s.

I was talking about RB20DET, which are 2.0l I6 double overhead cam, turbocharged motors, and comparing it to the RB30ET (turbo).
the RB20E your talking about is a 2.0l single cam non turbo motor

RAREV8 · 14-08-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

true, but before that motor, the 250 killed any six holden could ever produce

Dont diss the 250....slap a turbo on the side and you can pull some truly phenomenal performance. I was just having a dig about the RB30 donk- they showed Ford and Holden right up.....and they were using 5+litres and 8 cyl versus 3 litres 6cyl!! :sm_headba

Ryan · 14-08-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

I was talking about RB20DET, which are 2.0l I6 double overhead cam, turbocharged motors, and comparing it to the RB30ET (turbo).
the RB20E your talking about is a 2.0l single cam non turbo motor

I know.

I was using it as a example.

Did I say Single Cam motor?

I meant to say RB20DE I always forget to add the D. lol

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

Mate I wouldn't take a XV up to the paper shop for a bet!

Maybe because there is no such thing as an XV

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XplosiveR6 · 14-08-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

I drive a VX buddy.... Don't get jealous just cause you drive a battered clapped out XD yobbomobile..

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why dont go jump in ur all mighty VX and give yourself a pat on the back, fool.
dont judge someone for the car they drive

RAREV8 · 14-08-2005, 10:57 PM

Ha ha! its good to see a couple of cats online stirring it up- I'm not condoning random slagging and agro posting, just enjoying this for a bit!! Its good to see both sides have a bit o' passion!

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And no one dissing an AU either!!

RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rick69

Maybe because there is no such thing as an XV

When you only see the sh*tters in your rear view mirror you only recognise the letters in reverse!! You have just passed another nedloH!! :the_finge

Same old only thing that changes is the size of the lies and the lion.
Next thing you'll be praising the alloytec.....

Face it Rick you have neither clues nor arguments, you come over to suicide post to impress you little mates, and no-ones take the bait other than to recognise you as the lonely talentless void you are.

Ryan · 14-08-2005, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scottishxc

Ha ha! its good to see a couple of cats online stirring it up- I'm not condoning random slagging and agro posting, just enjoying this for a bit!! Its good to see both sides have a bit o' passion!

ing_sm

And no one dissing an AU either!!

AUs suck

Nah just kidding lol

rick69 · 14-08-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

When you only see the sh*tters in your rear view mirror you only recognise the letters in reverse!! You have just passed another nedleH!! :the_finge

Face it Rick you have neither clues nor arguments, you come over to suicide post to impress you little mates, and no-ones take the bait other than to recognise you as the lonely talentless void you are.

Mate you're the one that has no clue, you rely on senseless sarcasm and tasteless humour to back up your arguments.

RED_EL_XR8 · 14-08-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scottishxc

Ha ha! its good to see a couple of cats online stirring it up- I'm not condoning random slagging and agro posting, just enjoying this for a bit!! Its good to see both sides have a bit o' passion!

ing_sm

And no one dissing an AU either!!

Who you calling a cat you Scotch Git.. Lol

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nah its not passion Rick has, its poison.

Sourbastard · 14-08-2005, 11:02 PM

Threads closed guys, rick, back to your jungle gym.