A bit of guidance goes a long way...

AWD Chaser · 26-10-2011, 10:53 PM

Was reading the following news article about a P plater speeding and thought it was just the typical journos jumping on a weak story but was surprised to hear the outcome. Wish you would hear more outcomes like this:

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A P-PLATER has been issued traffic infringement notices after allegedly exceeding the speed limit with an unrestrained child in the car yesterday.

A Victorian p-plate driver has been issued traffic infringement notices after allegedly exceeding the speed limit with an unrestrained child in the car*yesterday.

About 2.30pm yesterday,*police attached the Goulburn Highway Patrol were conducting speed checks on the Hume Highway at the Goulburn*Bypass.

They detected a Victorian-registered red Ford Falcon allegedly*travelling at 128km/h in the 110km/h*zone.

Police stopped the vehicle and spoke to the 20-year-old male driver from*Mentone.

It will be alleged a 17-year-old female was in the back seat of the vehicle, with an unrestrained 18-month-old*child.

Further inquiries revealed the car’s registration was suspended in*Victoria.

Police escorted the car to a nearby service station where arrangements were made to the registration to be reinstated and they travelled into Goulburn and purchased an appropriate child*restraint.

The male driver was issued with a number of traffic infringement notices and warned about dangerous driving*behaviour.

2011G6E · 27-10-2011, 10:59 AM

No, I don't.

They were speeding with an unrestrained kid in the car. Not only that, it wasn't registered. If an accident happened, what happens with insurance, even basic third party?

"A warning"? If they're doing something minor, fine. If they're doing what these idiots were doing, throw the book at them to teach them a lesson.
I hope the cops involved are disciplined for being bloody idiots...

aussie muscle · 27-10-2011, 11:03 AM

i'm sure the guy 'forgot' about his rego and it expired...:P sounds like a ****** who doesn't give a crap about road rules, tbh.

Streets · 27-10-2011, 11:14 AM

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302 XC · 27-10-2011, 11:22 AM

Slap on the wrist for a blown taillight/indicator
But a slap on the wrist for unrego,and unrestrained child in the back

These guys are for real
Pull that one in QLD , youll cop a massive fine for the unreg/uninsured alone
These are the type of people that run around unregoed and when they hit you,cant afford to fix the damage

RG · 27-10-2011, 11:41 AM

Are you guys reading the entire article or just the highlighted bits?

It says the driver WAS issued with a number of infringement notices (fines). Looks like he was fined and given a decent talking to about his actions, then taken to make sure that an appropriate child restraint was purchased and installed.

Some people need to read the whole story before jumping off the deep end.

Ford_The_Win · 27-10-2011, 11:52 AM

Sounds like the police took pity on him because he's currently in the process of failing at life... how thick do you have to be to do 130 km/hr on the Hume? Anyone with half a brain knows there are cameras and police everywhere.
And assuming the baby is his child, a responsible parent would have strapped that baby in an appropriate child seat...in an accident it would go straight through the windscreen like a piece of luggage.

You Yangs · 27-10-2011, 12:20 PM

Anyone know how much the fine is for no Rego, no CTP insurance is is NSW? NOT CHEAP!!! Along with the speeding fines and buying a child restraint this bloke would have little change out of $3000.

sgt_doofey · 27-10-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Sounds like the police took pity on him because he's currently in the process of failing at life... how thick do you have to be to do 130 km/hr on the Hume? Anyone with half a brain knows there are cameras and police everywhere.
And assuming the baby is his child, a responsible parent would have strapped that baby in an appropriate child seat...in an accident it would go straight through the windscreen like a piece of luggage.

At least the cops are ensuring that the baby wouldn't become a projectile in the event of an accident. I'm sure that's the point the OP is trying to get across, that they are at least ensuring the safety of the child, even if the other occupants of the car aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

DBourne · 28-10-2011, 10:38 AM

wow some of you just post without even reading the whole thing then taking 2 seconds to digest the information don't you!

I'm sure they pinged him for all his wrong doing, but they also went to the extra length to ensure he got a proper seat for his child. They should be commended for this.

I'm sure they brought it up and he would of said "yeah, I'll get one, she'll be right" but they forced him to do it infront of them so they can be assured the child is protected.

Kudos to them.

Dave3911 · 28-10-2011, 02:18 PM

Just to add to the list of things people didn't read properly, the article clearly states the rego was suspended. Not expired. Not cancelled. Not unregistered. Suspended.

A rego can be suspended for a variety of reasons and in a lot of cases drivers can be unaware, especially when the suspension is imposed by the sheriff for an unpaid council parking ticket that blew off the window weeks prior to you changing your address. Council issue the ticket to the wrong address, sherrif doesn't follow up with the new one. Suddenly your rego and license are suspended.

Happens all the time. If it was something that could be sorted out over the phone at the next servo, it was hardly anything major.

Jim Goose · 28-10-2011, 02:22 PM

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Happens all the time. If it was something that could be sorted out over the phone at the next servo, it was hardly anything major.

You missed this bit...

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It will be alleged a 17-year-old female was in the back seat of the vehicle, with an unrestrained 18-month-old*child.

Not major? hell who cares about a toddler in the car unrestrained.... big deal aye?

tweeked · 28-10-2011, 02:33 PM

Think about it - was the better thing to do bar them from driving the vehicle in the middle of nowhere leaving them to hitchhike with an 18month old?

Seriously, stop jumping the gun and think. They got the vehicle legally ready to go again and fined the guy. Well done to the police in this instance.

RG · 28-10-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

You missed this bit...

Not major? hell who cares about a toddler in the car unrestrained.... big deal aye?

So apart from the fine, warning and making them buy a child seat, what else would you have liked done?

Public flogging followed by disembowelment perhaps? Drawn and quartered?

fmc351 · 28-10-2011, 03:14 PM

Sounds like they went the extra mile, and served more than just the law, while still executing the law. Good on em.

wulos · 28-10-2011, 03:29 PM

And so the extremists, once again jump in to make the world a better place with their views.
Seriously guys. There IS a time and a place. There is also a reason that judges, lawyers and the like are paid big $$$$'s. Supposedly their decisions, and arguments are tempered by education, and understanding in real world conditions.
Have a little faith. The question I would like to pose is do you honestly believe that the individuals involved in this incident(or those that have read this report) are likely to repeat offend? ie speed with an unrestrained infant in the back seat?
Whilst some would argue that punitive action works, it is far from being the most successful, or ONLY answer...

Jim Goose · 28-10-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

So apart from the fine, warning and making them buy a child seat, what else would you have liked done?

Public flogging followed by disembowelment perhaps? Drawn and quartered?

And you missed my point....... re-read what i said.... it was in responce to the comment that "it was hardly anything major."

The police did the right thing... but a few seem to miss the fact that these fools were driving around with a baby in a car unrestrained. With attitudes like that no wonder this planet is going down hill...

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Think about it - was the better thing to do bar them from driving the vehicle in the middle of nowhere leaving them to hitchhike with an 18month old?

why where they driving with a baby unrestrained in the first place....?

The Police did the right thing... however it seems most of you seem to keep missing the point about a 18month old baby unrestrained in a car. Its these types of brain dead people who just keep breeding lowering the IQ of population and everyone just keeps making excuses for them.

A few weeks ago a baby was declared brain dead after it was involved in an accident because the parents were too stupid to put it in a baby seat because they were driving in a van with a bench seat. The van rear ended a truck.

Lets just making excuses for these hard done by people folks..

wulos · 28-10-2011, 03:37 PM

I'm sure that everyone has their own strong ideas as to the rights/wrongs surrounding this incident.
As per other threads of a similar nature - I really don't think we have much to gain by argueing amongst ourselves over morals.
Let us all live and learn, and hopefully never be touched by and incidents such as this one.