10 second car, what do I need to race

[dieseltrain79]

4.14.4 Single Rolover Hoop with removable support members

The following vehicles require a single rollover hoop covering the full width of the driver's compartment with two back stays , a side intrusion bar and taxi bar of bolted construction using Grade 8 or equivalent fasteners constructed to ANDRA requirements as a MINIMUM ! ( Utilities may use a FOUR point rol cage with intrusion bars / diagonals on both sides ) .

Unmodified cars ( ET 10.00 - 10.99 ) : with nmodified monocoque construction with fixed steel roof , slower than 10.00 ( 1/4 ) / 6.50 ( 1/8 ) but faster than 10.99 ( 1/4 ) / 7.00 ( 1/8 ) .

My understanding of that is , UNtubbed = unmodified , therefore a Bolt in 4 point cage with Bolt in Side instrusion bar which is always on drivers side ?

So a back half cage with bolt in drivers side intrusion bar is required for Unmodified chassis/tubs .....

Hope that helps , but if in doubt , contact your local Andra Tech inspector for more info .

This is from the 2013 Andra rule book .

4.14. Full 6 Point Roll Cage with Removable Support Members .

The Following vehicles require a full roll cage mounted at a minimum of 6 points with removable side intrusion bars . The intrusion bars must be the same diameter and thickness as specified in the material selection chart and must be attached using 3/8 inch ( 10mm ) Grade 8 bolts as a minimum .

UNMODIFIED CARS ( et 8.00 - 9.99 ) . Street registered cars with a fixed steel roof and Unmodified monocoque construction running between 8.00 and 9.99 ( 1/4 ) / 5.00 and 6.25 ( 1/8 ) or slower .

So STREET Registered cars with FIxed Steel roof and UNMODIFIED chassis or tubs , ONLY needs BOLT in 6 point CAGE with BOLT in removable side intrusion bars .

WOW SO basially you can keep your registered car with unmodified chassis / tubs , streetable with all seats available with some Hard Work of making a Bolt In 6 point cage !

Thats got to be appealling to alot of people ...

Thats cool .... DAMN cool

[63futura]

Originally Posted by dieseltrain79

4.14.4 Single Rolover Hoop with removable support members

The following vehicles require a single rollover hoop covering the full width of the driver's compartment with two back stays , a side intrusion bar and taxi bar of bolted construction using Grade 8 or equivalent fasteners constructed to ANDRA requirements as a MINIMUM ! ( Utilities may use a FOUR point rol cage with intrusion bars / diagonals on both sides ) .

Unmodified cars ( ET 10.00 - 10.99 ) : with nmodified monocoque construction with fixed steel roof , slower than 10.00 ( 1/4 ) / 6.50 ( 1/8 ) but faster than 10.99 ( 1/4 ) / 7.00 ( 1/8 ) .

My understanding of that is , UNtubbed = unmodified , therefore a Bolt in 4 point cage with Bolt in Side instrusion bar which is always on drivers side ?

So a back half cage with bolt in drivers side intrusion bar is required for Unmodified chassis/tubs .....

Hope that helps , but if in doubt , contact your local Andra Tech inspector for more info .

This is from the 2013 Andra rule book .

4.14. Full 6 Point Roll Cage with Removable Support Members .

The Following vehicles require a full roll cage mounted at a minimum of 6 points with removable side intrusion bars . The intrusion bars must be the same diameter and thickness as specified in the material selection chart and must be attached using 3/8 inch ( 10mm ) Grade 8 bolts as a minimum .

UNMODIFIED CARS ( et 8.00 - 9.99 ) . Street registered cars with a fixed steel roof and Unmodified monocoque construction running between 8.00 and 9.99 ( 1/4 ) / 5.00 and 6.25 ( 1/8 ) or slower .

So STREET Registered cars with FIxed Steel roof and UNMODIFIED chassis or tubs , ONLY needs BOLT in 6 point CAGE with BOLT in removable side intrusion bars .

WOW SO basially you can keep your registered car with unmodified chassis / tubs , streetable with all seats available with some Hard Work of making a Bolt In 6 point cage !

Thats got to be appealling to alot of people ...

Thats cool .... DAMN cool

Thanks for that
Ok so now how the hell do you get a 6 point cage in and out of a car ?

[prasac]

Originally Posted by 63futura

Thanks for that
Ok so now how the hell do you get a 6 point cage in and out of a car ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ySu1QjSZw

you will need a mouse to english translation

[63futura]

Originally Posted by prasac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ySu1QjSZw

you will need a mouse to english translation

Haha
So it can be bolt together ?
I though it would have to be one piece ?
Would be good if you could do 2 piece and bolt the 2 together then wouldnt be as hard to fit

[brad24]

Originally Posted by 63futura

Thanks for that
Ok so now how the hell do you get a 6 point cage in and out of a car ?

I went though it with Scott from torque fabrications mate.
He welds in plates with nuts on them on the floor/sill at the base of the B pillar, around your feet & on the parcel shelf. The B pillar hoop bolts to this, the side instrusion bar bolts to the B pillat hoop & the floor & the rear stays bolt from the B pillar hoop to the parcel shelf. The taxi bar bolts to the centre hoop. In my XT he says he welds in a permanent bar in the boot from the parcel shelf to the chassis rail. Hope that makes sense.
Its a ***** of a job to get it out but it can be done,
One of the boys at work have a similar set up in a HZ

[63futura]

Originally Posted by brad24

I went though it with Scott from torque fabrications mate.
He welds in plates with nuts on them on the floor/sill at the base of the B pillar, around your feet & on the parcel shelf. The B pillar hoop bolts to this, the side instrusion bar bolts to the B pillat hoop & the floor & the rear stays bolt from the B pillar hoop to the parcel shelf. The taxi bar bolts to the centre hoop. In my XT he says he welds in a permanent bar in the boot from the parcel shelf to the chassis rail. Hope that makes sense.
Its a ***** of a job to get it out but it can be done,
One of the boys at work have a similar set up in a HZ

Now you have my attention
Bolt a 6 point in and run some 9s then take it home and unbolt it to cruise would be great

[brad24]

Originally Posted by 63futura

Now you have my attention
Bolt a 6 point in and run some 9s then take it home and unbolt it to cruise would be great

Scott quoted me $2400 for a bolt in moly cage

How does that compare to what you fella's on the east coast have paid for?

[63futura]

Originally Posted by brad24

Scott quoted me $2400 for a bolt in moly cage

How does that compare to what you fella's on the east coast have paid for?

Was that 4 point or 6 Brad ?

[brad24]

Originally Posted by 63futura

Was that 4 point or 6 Brad ?

Thats for what I described above mate

I believe a 6 point cage is fixed to the car at 6 points, happy to be corrected if Im wrong.
Im going to go & see Scott at torque fab when I get home mate. If ya wanna come for a spin in the XT your more than welcome to come along.

[XT302]

Originally Posted by brad24

Scott quoted me $2400 for a bolt in moly cage

How does that compare to what you fella's on the east coast have paid for?

$2400 (3days) for a welded in like that XY with bolt intrusion bar drivers side , including ANDRA paperwork/certified, Stuart at Racers Choice

Another mate got full cage and four link in his 1965 Stang and I cannot fault the quality of workmanship. I cannot talk for if it is a good four link etc as I have no experience in that stuff. Would I get something done there myself I would, I haven't had any experience with other to compare by but came good on quoted time & $ and quality.