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So because vehicles are more efficient and burn less fuel today, the government is losing revenue.
Hmm, looks like the treasury is getting ready to line their pockets with our hard earned cash. |
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This actually makes much more sense to me... Canberra won't like State taxes though Lol.
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thats going to hurt country drivers!? i'd have to find a way out of it!
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Well, I'm going to cop it then, just going to and from work I do 550km a week.
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And how would they charge truckies then??????
Wouldnt this mean an increase in freight charges?
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mmm goody.......... so you are not well off and spend your hard earned $$$ on a fuel efficient car to save a few buks so you can actually afford to drive somewhere only to be kicked in the Goolies for your efforts, i`ll say it...... money sucking parasites they are.
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Because we haven't used enough electricity over summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Captain Blighs gotta go!!!!
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its how they tax diesel users in nz, you buy kms, and its a massive fine if your pulled up and you have gone over what youve paid for.
thats why diesel is cheaper than petrol in nz. ![]() i reckon its a good idea, providing the taxes are actually removed from the petrol... |
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Country people already pay more in excise, going long distance, as they use more fuel in the first place. So that argument is a mute point. This new arrangement could actually make it fairer much easier...
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for a change, I think the racv make some sense, their solution to traffic problems(building more roads) has been proven the world over to do exactly the opposite!
At the moment its people that are doing small mileages, people that own several vehicles that are parked in a garage all day that are paying large amounts of rego etc and are subsidising those that are high road users. user pays, what is fairer than that. |
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Yep, same thing exactly...we're paying 6.6% this year (more rises to come) for electricity here in Queensland because we listened to everything the grubbiment told us to do and used less power. Nice.
Now the ****** want to find new ways to charge us because our cars are getting better economy... The black hole that is Canberra never sleeps... ![]() |
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Good for me, I do bugger all Km's but use lots of petrol. (thank you v8 in short peak hour trips).
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It sounds good in theory, but I don't want the government tracking my car with satellites. Also, I would predict that driving becomes more expensive, even if the fuel component is cheaper. They would probably start privatizing all roads for revenue, and we lose even more control in another area of our lives. Don't do it!
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Price of houses within 10km radius of a big city will sky rocket.
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When you take taxes off fuel / registration and make them distance travelled, it doesn't matter as much what you drive because the cost of fuel is much lower. Look at Europe, really high fuel prices did two things: - Improved fuel economy and reduced emissions - reduced people's discretionary driving distances. Unless the government wants to start a variable rate kilometre charging system or E-Toll every zone in the state, I can't see this working or being fair. |
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As said above, this is how it is done in NZ.
Not sure if going that way will be cheaper for the consumer, although I doubt it. I like the idea. Although it wouldn't encourage us to make our vehicles run efficient.
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Just goes to show the government don't care about the environment. At the end of the day they just want our money.
If everybody started walking everywhere they would force us to be gps tracked so they could charge us for walking. |
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the government wants more revenue..
the only way for them to get more, is to charge us more. theres no way its 'better' for the general population. those who can, already live close to work, because they can afford it!
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This will just be the start, if they start tracking our movements using gps you know what that means, automatic speeding fines, loss of privacy and not to mention we will all end up paying more regardless.
If the goverment wants some more money maybe they shouldnt be waisting it on this like overly expensive nbn, un used pipelines (vic) and handing out money to the people that live of our taxes to "prop up the economy" |
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Don't worry...the government won't do it unless it can be absolutely assured that it will make more money than the present system...if not immediately then shortly after introduction of it. This goes for literally everything they do, and ever have done.
What, do people honestly think they're going to do something that will "save the public money" and lower thier revenue? If so, I've got a bridge in Sydney for sale that you might be interested in... ![]() |
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How about moving all the public servants out of the city centres to regional low rise eco friendly natural lighted and cooled enclaves. Thes could be situated along a rail corridore with regular transport back to the cities and not be accessible to private cars. Much lower energy use. Much smaller traffic jams. Stimulus to building. Decentralisation. Of course it would mean government playing their part rather than making everyone else pay for their "luxury lifestyles"........ |
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Great for wealthy inner-city and inner suburb dwelling commuters.
Bad for the single mums, struggling families who live in the outer suburbs. They want to introduce a user-pay system? We already do! The more fuel you use, the more tax you pay. You cant get more user-pay than that. |
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Who garaunteed that a tax will be dropped for a different tax?? and not just ADDED ON?
GILLARD" -There will be no carbon tax |
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That's it. As the article said. Government is losing income because people are driving more fuel efficient cars. They need to make more money! **** saving fuel, they just want your money!! That is all they care about. |
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