All new Holden Commodore Z Series - Bad name?

AWD Chaser · 20-10-2012, 01:21 PM

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore/z-series

What is with the name choice on this?

VZ > VE > VE Z series

**DJM83** · 20-10-2012, 01:41 PM

I was at Westfield today and seen one of those raffle thingos and there was a nice purple colour VE SV6 ute with a Z series badge on the front guard. I looked at it like WTF, what are they doing?

SSV, Z Series

Powdered Toast Man · 20-10-2012, 02:04 PM

I would assume it is based on the fact it is the last of the VE and they are following on from the Monaro CV8Z (i.e. last of the Monaros) nomenclature.

Tysonv48 · 17-01-2013, 09:44 PM

Didn't they already do his with the VZ special edition SSZ (V8) and SVZ (V6)

**PridenJoy** · 17-01-2013, 10:56 PM

Aren't the VZ HSV's called the Z series also? Did they seriosuly run out of names?

Should've called it NANANANA! Idiots.

Rico 110s · 17-01-2013, 11:08 PM

I went to the link that was provided by the thread and as I scroll down I see it says "boot Spoiler". I mean really! is that a boot spoiler a thin strip of plastic glued to the boot lid, REALLY??

**SSD-85** · 17-01-2013, 11:12 PM

Getting worked up over Holden badging are we?

stevz · 17-01-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico 110s

I went to the link that was provided by the thread and as I scroll down I see it says "boot Spoiler". I mean really! is that a boot spoiler a thin strip of plastic glued to the boot lid, REALLY??

It says lip spoiler not boot spoiler.

flooded one · 17-01-2013, 11:18 PM

could be worse could be realised with chev badges at factory

flappist · 17-01-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wildrider

could be worse could be realised with chev badges at factory

Then it would be the commodore zee.......

FacultY · 17-01-2013, 11:22 PM

Its just a limited edition naming like the xr6 limited edition. Nice to see Brembos on the ssv.

Auslandau · 17-01-2013, 11:23 PM

So its a SVESV6ZSIDI .... ?

In Focus · 17-01-2013, 11:26 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzz....

Rico 110s · 17-01-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stevz

It says lip spoiler not boot spoiler.

Thank you for correcting me, still hardly a BIG sales advantage, but I will say that Holden are probably one of the best marketers around.

Pedro · 17-01-2013, 11:51 PM

Z is fairly appropriate .... last letter in the alphabet .... as recently announced, (by GM, not Dowling), the last Commodore will be produced 2016, same as Falcon.

EVLKNEVL · 18-01-2013, 12:12 AM

Shoulda called them Shazwazzas

SM1DY · 18-01-2013, 07:59 AM

I liked the 'Thunder' name plate, because I could called each one a 'Thunder-box'

stevz · 18-01-2013, 10:49 AM

I find it somewhat ironic that in another thread everyone is up in arms about media negativity of locally built large cars, yet here is everyone bagging the crap out one.

Tysonv48 · 18-01-2013, 11:29 AM

We're not bagging the crap out of the car, only the unfortunate and reused "z" badging

xisled · 18-01-2013, 01:23 PM

The Z series is the same as the G6 Limited edition. They come with bigger rims and a couple of other upgrades.

I think they are just running out 2012 plated models.

This has been around for a few months now.

2011G6E · 18-01-2013, 01:42 PM

The first time I saw a GT Falcon with the "R Spec" badge on the back, I actually stopped and took a photo of it, laughing as I did so, and was within minutes of making a fool out of myself by posting it on here and making fun of someone "ricing up" a GT by getting a badge from the dress-up aisle at Supercheap...

290v · 18-01-2013, 02:38 PM

Who cares they will rip the badges off and put Chevy badges on them anyway

1TUFFUTE · 18-01-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

The first time I saw a GT Falcon with the "R Spec" badge on the back, I actually stopped and took a photo of it, laughing as I did so, and was within minutes of making a fool out of myself by posting it on here and making fun of someone "ricing up" a GT by getting a badge from the dress-up aisle at Supercheap...

well not only does Rspec make sense...it also looks very diff to normal badged falcons and GTs....so I cant believe how you thought it was a riced up version

2011G6E · 18-01-2013, 06:31 PM

My mistake of course...this was when the RSpec first came out, and I hadn't even heard about them, but because I own an old Celica and have an interest in Jap performance cars and get around meets of old Japanese stuff, I see some simply shocking "badge engineering" with people chucking truckloads of R-Spec and similar badges all over cars they simply don't belong on...when I saw an R-Spec badge on what appeared to be a GT Falcon in front of me in traffic (that had been striped up and badges stuck on the boot), I couldn't believe someone had done it.

To be honest, I still can't believe Ford did it...

Ford_The_Win · 18-01-2013, 06:33 PM

I drove a VE Sportwagon for the first time yesterday. The plastic inside is so cheap and thin that the whole centre console + gear lever surround flexed by at least 10mm when I prodded it with my finger. Maybe if Holden invested more time and effort into building solid cars they wouldn't be in the mess they're in and wouldn't need to bring out these stupid sticker packs to get people through the door.

BENT_8 · 18-01-2013, 06:54 PM

OMFG,you cant be serious, a thread to hang crap on Holden for reusing the letter Z on its range of cars...slow news day hey.

I'll be honest and say i think the whole Rspec GT thing is a bigger joke, i associate Rspec with jap crap, not GT falcons.
Rspec is a term used when you dont have the balls to call a GT with handling options exactly what it is, a GT-HO.

My 2c.

BP'93 · 19-01-2013, 12:37 AM

I didn't know but the all the Commodore variants are only being sold in Z-Series models only. I thought it was juat an add on like Commodore Omega International but apparently not. There's nothing wrong with the Z badge, gets people in the door I suppose.

stevz · 19-01-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

I drove a VE Sportwagon for the first time yesterday. The plastic inside is so cheap and thin that the whole centre console + gear lever surround flexed by at least 10mm when I prodded it with my finger. Maybe if Holden invested more time and effort into building solid cars they wouldn't be in the mess they're in and wouldn't need to bring out these stupid sticker packs to get people through the door.

Wow, big statements coming from a Lancer owner.

At the end of the day, a VE is a far more solid car than a pos Lancer will ever be, so perhaps those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
By the way, I have a VE in the driveway at the moment and the centre console would be lucky to flex 2-3mm let alone 10, so perhaps you should think about your exaggerated crap before posting it.

Tysonv48 · 19-01-2013, 01:27 PM

This is not a commodore or jap car bashing thread so don't turn it into that.
This is only about why holden chose to use the "z" and discussion surrounding what it stands for/where it came from.

1TUFFUTE · 19-01-2013, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

My mistake of course...this was when the RSpec first came out, and I hadn't even heard about them, but because I own an old Celica and have an interest in Jap performance cars and get around meets of old Japanese stuff, I see some simply shocking "badge engineering" with people chucking truckloads of R-Spec and similar badges all over cars they simply don't belong on...when I saw an R-Spec badge on what appeared to be a GT Falcon in front of me in traffic (that had been striped up and badges stuck on the boot), I couldn't believe someone had done it.

To be honest, I still can't believe Ford did it...

don't be another hater of sports stripes pleeeease. Do you know how many cars in this world come from the factory with stripes??? I cant think of one that doesn't have a striped sports model. Now if it was a luxury model...then maybye that deserves questioning. Porshe does it.....merc, renult, mustangs, and many more