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Join Date: Feb 2005
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With the introduction of the new hoon laws, I thought it
would be appropriate to have a look at some of the crap laws we have in this country. The passive acceptance of such laws shows our weakness. I've heard that in Italy no one at all pays parking fines! Because literally no one paid, the authorities really couldn't do anything about it.. They gave up! My top 5 dumbest laws: 1. If you lose traction of two tyres the cops confiscate your car! 2. If you drive 63km/h in a 60km/h zone you get a speeding fine! 3. If you drink a beer on the beach, or whilst having a picnic you get a fine! 4. If a burglar gets bitten by your dog whilst robbing your house, he sues you! 5. If you Jay-walk you get a fine! I read in the local paper that police are targeting hoons to save innocent lives, becaue they reckon that if you hoon you may crash into other cars. In the next paragraph they said that they will be targeting a quiet industrial estate which is "notorious" for burnouts at night. Surely, they are contradicting themselves... What the hell is wrong with a young fella doing a burnout in some industrial estate at night??? The worst he can do is bust a rim on the gutter. What a joke! In my opinion bad laws just turn the community against the police - which is not a good thing. |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North America
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We have the same sort of anti Hot Rod mentality here
The government is more than happy to collect taxes from the sale of high performance parts & services but do you think there is any place to use them? Not on your life ! The closest drag strip is at least 200KM from the city & they wont let anyone build one closer |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Actually the Jaywalking one is fair enough, maybe you should replace it with
5) if you walk away from your car without locking it you get a fine I don't know about other states but in NSW if you don't lock your car when you go to pay for petrol you can be fined. Now this may seem like common sense in the city but in the country whats the point? I could leave my car unattended and unlocked for days and no-one would touch it. |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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There have been several people seriously injured and killed over the years. So I would say that yes they are doing there job. If it saves 1 life I think it is all worth it.
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A friend of mine was asleep in his truck outside a factory in Sydney one night when a car hangin’ doughnuts lost control and ended up half underneath his trailer. Don’t get me wrong here, I understand what you’re saying, however, it’s a double edged sword. If the people practicing the finer points of their driving skills in an industrial area get caught, they seem to think that this is victimisation. But if the worst happens, the families of the victims say to the authorities, why weren’t you out there stopping this sort of thing. *** Edit *** Gilesie bet me to it.
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Allan Smithee
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SE Melbourne
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A couple of the dumbest laws going would be the ones I read about a couple of years ago when they were repealed (removed from the Summary Offences Act): 1- Rolling a barrel whilst drunk was an offence (The saying rolling drunk??) 2- Having a goat tow a cart was illegal. Black-XR6-VCT, If you aren't happy with the way the government, whther it be Federal or State, is dealing with issues, why not tell them through your local MP. They are your elected official to represent YOU in the government.
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the people smoking know the risks and are doing the damage to themselves. An industrial area does have people traveling through in the night in the course of there work. 1 example would be a truck driver returning his truck to the yard to drive home in his car. Or maybe the an employee of a company working back late to get the job finished. These type of people would be innocent victims.
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I know this cause untill recently i attened these event's weekly. But yes there are tool's out there who arn't as carefull as other's. And for the smoking, i know the risk's but why should i be subjected to it to. I choose not to smoke but can't do anything if the guy next to me is smoking. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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yes you can get sued if your dog bites an intruder, just the same if an intruder cuts himself climbing through your bedroom window that he just broke.
it may be stupid but it is real. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: cairns
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street racing oh dear.. i know most of us have done it and alot of us still do it but no one can blame the cops for trying to put a stop to it its dangerous and there is no possible way to control that sort of situation.. 130+mph on the street with people all around watching it is a disaster in the waiting..
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You left John Laws out of your list....
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no thats just common sense top 5 means top 5 after john laws
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acutally how about if you are drunk and you have your car key's on you you are deemed to be in control of your car and can be charged with drink driving or intent to!!!
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland
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My two biggest complaints
1.) Hidden taxes everywhere...i reckon there should be income tax and thats it...there shouldnt be tax on petrol, alcohol, etc 2.) dolebludgers, people that just sit on the dole while hard working people pay for them to do that, you should be allowed the dole for 6 months and thats it...after 6 months you get no dole, i bet people will find a job pretty quick then |
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it's been tested in court a few times; driver loses. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Well there are alot of rules, the street racing and smoking the tyres one, well if you do it and get caught your bad luck. Myself have done this before but i know the result of that is my own actions. Which is why i normally prefer to do this on issolated roads when i have done it in the past. But truely you break the law then you deserve the outcome i affraid.
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They had to do something about drivers spinning their wheels or leaving grafiti on the roads.
I have seen several times where cars ended up in the gutter or embankment because the driver lost it. If there were pedestrians there, or if they went into oncoming traffic, there would've been more serious cosequences. I cant see a problem in isolated places, or short burnouts where nothing could happen, this should be OK, but if injury or personal property could be affected, thats where these hoon laws should step in. I hope they use some discretion when effecting these hoon laws. I also hope vehicle confiscation extends to continual drunk drivers. Haven't seen this problem being addressed however. Another stupid law is that the car owner is deemed guilty if caught on the speed camera. Who dobs in another driver if they weren't driving? And who can remember who was driving where a few weeks ago, and if they were going faster than the limit at that location, when the speeding notice is received in the post? How can you prove you weren't driving at the alledged speed? |
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Time bombs. Get them off the road. |
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You know, normally Id be all for a rave about stupid traffic laws and/or thier enforcement but after watching the news over the last couple of days my vote for the most aggravating law would be the one that says....
"You cannot belt the **** out of and then kill some bastard who has raped and killed an innocent 8 yr old girl (WA) or brutally bashed a 7 yr old boy and his mother (NSW)" Just my vote for current law that really gets me going ![]() What Id give for just 5 mins with these pricks :jab:
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I think the cops should stop dishing out fines left, right & centre and start booking taxi drivers for breaking just about every road rule in the book.
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Its a $135 fine AND 1 point .. I parked my car out the front of the bank. Got out and stood out on the footparth and talked to a few M8s .. like we used to do every friday night.. (from 7pm till 9pm) Cops walk along and generally They are good .. They look around the cars and maybe tell you to " Just get it fixed" and making them self seen so nothing stupid happends . This copper sees my keys in the ignition and Proceeds to tell me off and give me a fine .... as if some one was going to steal my car as Me AND Mates are there .. ![]() ANYWAY .. How about a law that Makes people have to do a basic Practical test in how to change things like .. Tyres , Headlight / Tail light Globes..... Just easy things like that . |
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Allan Smithee
Join Date: May 2005
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The glass example is not quite correct. It depends on where the window is what room), the age of the premises, how accessable the window is to the street, the last time the window was broken and what type of glass it was replaced with. How was the glass broken, what was the reason for breaking the glass. This thread is simplyfying things that aren't simple. I still maintain that if your dog was in your house and and someone was inside tha thouse for an unlawful purpose and your dog bit that perosn, without you provoking it, no one could successfully sue you. If that was the case, imagine what a liablility a trained gaurd dog would be :nutsycuck. Think about it! The thread was about the 5 dumbest laws, not the 5 dumbest urban myths.
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6. Young drivers have to have a plastic card on their car with a P on it, if not they get a fine and get 3 demerit poins out of a possible 5 before loss of licence.
Tell me "how" a plastic card save lives?
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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[sic] If a dog attacks a person or persons (be that on public or private property) unprovoked, then in the least the dog will be classed as a dangerous dog (with all that goes with it) and may be euthanised (spelling?). If a dog is provoked into attacking a person on public property, depending on the incident and discretion of the ranger, it may still be classed as a dangerous animal and may also be euthanised. If a dog is provoked into an attack on a person on private property (by the person attacked), then the person who provoked the attack on themselves is at blame and will be held totally responsible. Trust me, I lost a dog to these laws even though he was provoked by a group of 6 teenagers and only barked and acted in a vicious manner but at no time actually physically harmed any person(s). As a result he was declared dangerous. Even after the declaration is lifted the animal is still on record as a dangerous animal. He got out one day when we were out, because it took 2 rangers a 2 coppers with pepper spray to "corner, contain and forcably restrain" him (he was a large 50 odd kilo dog and very fit), I was given the choice: lock him in a 6x6x6 cage or euthansia. I have his ashes at home. One of the rangers was injured during the struggle, I was "lucky" that we weren't sued for damages as my dog was cornered on my premises, he'd tried to get home to stop the pepper spray attacks - my dog, my property, my responsibility. Because I chose not to cage him, they (the council) didn't sue.... Remember, a guard dog is "supposed" to be trained to "hold" a suspect, not tear them to shreds.
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