adaptive shift

surok · 12-02-2007, 06:40 PM

im having trouble with my transmission
say ill be going up a really steep hill, and i am starting to lose speed, so i am pressing the accelerator harder and harder waiting for it to change down and im still losing speed, and its not changing down, so im almost flooring it and it wont change down!!
maybe i have to reset the ADP shift points
or put it in max performance mode?

any suggestions?

66 coupe · 12-02-2007, 06:44 PM

you can try to reset the ecu by disconnecting the battery for 15 to 30 mins, the ecu will deault into adaptive mode.
Other causes could be a faulty tps, fauly gear position switch, or possibly even a broken accelerator cable, which is not opening the throttle body 100%.

Does it manually drop back into 3,2,1 if you use the t-bar?

surok · 12-02-2007, 06:48 PM

yeah it changes gear if i do it manually or if i just floor it but as it was raining the past few days i have been hesitant to just floor it , i was going gradually to avoid spinning it

also
does max performance mode keep every gear till redline? then shift

66 coupe · 12-02-2007, 06:56 PM

econ mode schedules shift points at lower speeds, perf mode schedules the shifts at higher speeds, or higher rpm at high loads, and adaptive mode schedules shifts based on how you drive the car. Under wide open throttle it should shift quite high in the rpm (> 4000) it wont hold every gear till redline though.

It should kick down at around 70% throttle, but its best to test it on a dry day.

josh_hartman · 12-02-2007, 07:10 PM

whats the difference between adaptive shift and econ mode?

surok · 12-02-2007, 07:12 PM

There are five shift maps within the three modes, from the softest shifts to the most aggressive. These are determined by the accelerator and braking inputs to determine which shift map is used as part of the overall Adaptive Shift Strategy.

ECON mode uses the first couple of maps. So generally quite soft shifts, with engine revs managed generally below 2,000 rpm and a docile response to kickdown.

Adaptive Shift mode uses the middle map and alternates betwen the slightly softer and the more aggressive maps - depending on driving style. There is some variance in kickdown behaviour as this is again determined by driving style. Gear changes around the 2,200 rpm mark or thereabouts normally.

PERF mode uses the more aggressive and most aggressive shifting maps. The shifting is then biased to achieving peak torque RPM's before shifting. Any throttle input beyond 50% is considered full throttle and the gearbox shifts at the redline or just before I think. Kickdown is fairly instantenous, kickdown two gears in rapid succession during enthusiastic driving is not uncommon.

sbutler · 12-02-2007, 07:19 PM

I have my T3 in PERF mode for the resons you discribe, now its fine..

surok · 12-02-2007, 07:21 PM

ok cool thats what i wanted to hear

surok · 12-02-2007, 07:26 PM

i need to make a device with a 3 position rocker switch to switch between the modes

sbutler · 12-02-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surok

i need to make a device with a 3 position rocker switch to switch between the modes

Nar just leave in performance mode & enjoy. :alien2:

**DJM83** · 12-02-2007, 08:20 PM

What are the shift point in PERF mode i have my TE in ADP and it seems abit lazy

surok · 12-02-2007, 08:28 PM

http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...warticle&id=36

Dark Horse · 12-02-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

There are five shift maps within the three modes, from the softest shifts to the most aggressive. These are determined by the accelerator and braking inputs to determine which shift map is used as part of the overall Adaptive Shift Strategy.

ECON mode uses the first couple of maps. So generally quite soft shifts, with engine revs managed generally below 2,000 rpm and a docile response to kickdown.

Adaptive Shift mode uses the middle map and alternates betwen the slightly softer and the more aggressive maps - depending on driving style. There is some variance in kickdown behaviour as this is again determined by driving style. Gear changes around the 2,200 rpm mark or thereabouts normally.

PERF mode uses the more aggressive and most aggressive shifting maps. The shifting is then biased to achieving peak torque RPM's before shifting. Any throttle input beyond 50% is considered full throttle and the gearbox shifts at the redline or just before I think. Kickdown is fairly instantenous, kickdown two gears in rapid succession during enthusiastic driving is not uncommon.

That's better. Just for everyone else's reference when they look as to who originally posted that up [in the XR auto mode change instructions thread] when they do a search for "Adaptive Shift".

It's a good idea that PERF mode be avoided in the wet in case the kickdown initiates two shifts instead of just the one you wanted, or needed. All part of the CYA strategy in case the back end steps out when you don't want it to.

So in that situation, better to manual select.

XR6-VCT-2000 · 12-02-2007, 10:33 PM

I've had mine in Performance mode since the first week i got it, i had crappy gear changes too in econ and adaptive shift ( allthough adaptive shift wasn't as bad ).

I seem to get better firmer shifts and better kickdown in performance mode. It's fine in wet weather too so long as you take it easy .my 2 cents worth anyway. cheers.

Casper · 12-02-2007, 10:36 PM

There is one final setting.. its called "edit".. and it ONLY uses the most aggressive mode

NeishaXR8_347 · 12-02-2007, 10:47 PM

Im not sure if this is correct but i heard that if your in ECON mode and put the pedal to the metal it overides ECON and jumps to PERF mode? Then obviously once not on the metal it carries on with ECON.

sbutler · 12-02-2007, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

That's better. Just for everyone else's reference when they look as to who originally posted that up [in the XR auto mode change instructions thread] when they do a search for "Adaptive Shift".

It's a good idea that PERF mode be avoided in the wet in case the kickdown initiates two shifts instead of just the one you wanted, or needed. All part of the CYA strategy in case the back end steps out when you don't want it to.

So in that situation, better to manual select.

Im not convinced thats correct Darky.
The reason I moved mine to PERF was to get the thing to change back smoother. When it was in ADP it would hang on to long ,then all of a sudden change backwhen you didnt expect it to.
Now it changes pretty much the same all the time. I dont find it to harsh at all, in fact its much more prodictable. Dont know if the XRs are the same..

Casper · 12-02-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

That's better. Just for everyone else's reference when they look as to who originally posted that up [in the XR auto mode change instructions thread] when they do a search for "Adaptive Shift".

It's a good idea that PERF mode be avoided in the wet in case the kickdown initiates two shifts instead of just the one you wanted, or needed. All part of the CYA strategy in case the back end steps out when you don't want it to.

So in that situation, better to manual select.

That happens in the dry given the right road anyhow.. lol.

BFD83 · 13-02-2007, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR6-VCT-2000

I've had mine in Performance mode since the first week i got it, i had crappy gear changes too in econ and adaptive shift ( allthough adaptive shift wasn't as bad ).

I seem to get better firmer shifts and better kickdown in performance mode. It's fine in wet weather too so long as you take it easy .my 2 cents worth anyway. cheers.

How do ya change it to "performance mode" man??

surok · 13-02-2007, 01:50 AM

http://www.aufalcon.com/cgi-bin/inde...20instructions

XR6-VCT-2000 · 13-02-2007, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent83

How do ya change it to "performance mode" man??

Here you go , originaly from aufalcon.com

It has been asked many times, so here it is, the instructions for changing the AU XR auto into the different modes.

Stop the vehicle, apply Park Brake and turn Ignition Off

Apply Foot Brake and move gear selector to:

1 for Maximum Performance Mode
2 for Maximum Economy Mode
3 for Adaptive Shift Strategy

Turn the ignition On and wait for the air bag warning light to turn off

Move the selector to "R" and wait for the segment on the cluster to confirm the mode selected:

(Not sure if you will see this in XR's only for T series)

PEF - Maximum Performance Mode
ECO - Maximum Economy Mode
ADP - Adaptive Shift Strategy

Return gear selector to "P" and start the engine.

Programmed modes will remain unless the EEC is reprogrammed by the above procedure or the vehicle battery power is removed.

Default mode after battery reconnection is ADP.
(Supplied to aufalcon.com by Kooky)

Automatic modes for the TS50

2 Modes exist
ESS - Electronic Sports Shift
ADP - Adaptive Shift Strategy

Selecting ESS mode

Press mode selector switch
Vehicle must be in drive, and may be moving
instrument cluster will display ESS
Pressing either upper button causes an up-shift
Pressing either lower button causes a down-shift
The T-bar must be used to select between Park, Reverse and Neutral
To return to ADP mode(default), press the Mode switch or turn the ignition off

In ESS mode the transmission state is displayed to indicate the following conditions:
P - Park
R - Reverse
N - Neutral
1 - 1st gear selected
2 - 2nd gear selected
3 - 3rd gear selected
4 - 4th gear selected
5 - Torque converter lock-up

(Supplied to aufalcon.com by MYTE8)

BFD83 · 13-02-2007, 11:44 AM

i tried doing exactly what you said man but it just kept saying "ECON" for every mode i selected! :(

**FTE217** · 13-02-2007, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

It's a good idea that PERF mode be avoided in the wet in case the kickdown initiates two shifts instead of just the one you wanted, or needed. All part of the CYA strategy in case the back end steps out when you don't want it to.

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but if the back kicks out when you don't want it too means you can't steer

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Darky you keep it in Econ mode I wouldn't want you to hurt anyone especially yourself :nutsycuck

XR Rob · 13-02-2007, 01:33 PM

Gotta say, I'm using ECON on the drive to work each day, which is 95% stop-start traffic. It really helps save fuel. Still getting around 450km/tank with the a/c on most of the time, too.

Dark Horse · 13-02-2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

but if the back kicks out when you don't want it too means you can't steer

:
Darky you keep it in Econ mode I wouldn't want you to hurt anyone especially yourself :nutsycuck

:

Yeah, thanks Maurie. I've been stuck in Econ mode for the last two and a bit weeks in the Focus now.

sbutler · 14-02-2007, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR6-VCT-2000

Here you go , originaly from aufalcon.com

It has been asked many times, so here it is, the instructions for changing the AU XR auto into the different modes.

Stop the vehicle, apply Park Brake and turn Ignition Off

Apply Foot Brake and move gear selector to:

1 for Maximum Performance Mode
2 for Maximum Economy Mode
3 for Adaptive Shift Strategy

Turn the ignition On and wait for the air bag warning light to turn off

Move the selector to "R" and wait for the segment on the cluster to confirm the mode selected:

(Not sure if you will see this in XR's only for T series)

PEF - Maximum Performance Mode
ECO - Maximum Economy Mode
ADP - Adaptive Shift Strategy

Return gear selector to "P" and start the engine.

Programmed modes will remain unless the EEC is reprogrammed by the above procedure or the vehicle battery power is removed.

Default mode after battery reconnection is ADP.
(Supplied to aufalcon.com by Kooky)

Automatic modes for the TS50

2 Modes exist
ESS - Electronic Sports Shift
ADP - Adaptive Shift Strategy

Selecting ESS mode

Press mode selector switch
Vehicle must be in drive, and may be moving
instrument cluster will display ESS
Pressing either upper button causes an up-shift
Pressing either lower button causes a down-shift
The T-bar must be used to select between Park, Reverse and Neutral
To return to ADP mode(default), press the Mode switch or turn the ignition off

In ESS mode the transmission state is displayed to indicate the following conditions:
P - Park
R - Reverse
N - Neutral
1 - 1st gear selected
2 - 2nd gear selected
3 - 3rd gear selected
4 - 4th gear selected
5 - Torque converter lock-up

(Supplied to aufalcon.com by MYTE8)

The auto mode for TS50 is wrong. Well it is
on my TS. It has
ECON
PERF
ADP
or ESS
My car is in PERF now, it was in ADP up untill I changed it....

XR6-VCT-2000 · 14-02-2007, 09:18 AM

No worries , they were not my words , that was pasted from the aufalcon website .
The settings worked in my AU2 XR , only thing different was the dash icons conformation. In my xr when i select econ , econ flashes a few times then stays on the dash lcd , if i select adaptive then the econ icon flashes a few times then disapears , if i select performance it flashes the econ icon once then disapears.

(or something like that, its been over a year since i changed the mode over in my car. lol) Cheers.

sbutler · 14-02-2007, 03:13 PM

Yeah it might be an AU2 thing, mabe the AU3s were different...

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XR Rob · 14-02-2007, 05:49 PM

In the AU2, ECON flashes three times to indicate the change has been made.

Then you start the car.

ECON will then remain lit if you're in ECON mode. ECON will flash once if you're in performance mode. ECON won't flash at all if you're in adaptive... as I remember it.

XR Lita · 24-02-2007, 09:35 PM

What if ECON stays on no matter what mode you select? That's what mine is doing now. No matter what mode I select, ECON just stays in the LCD display. No flashing, just stays permanently.