Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by rare ss

I was going to post up that XG, mate of mine sent it to us last night.. would have been all over it if I didn't get myself the FG

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I had one of these ages ago in Polynesian Green (manual) ... was a nice ute.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by LG17

One of our cars is a 2012 4WD dual cab Hilux in immaculate condition. We have been thinking about trading it in and buying something new and maybe a little more comfortable. We took it to a dealer the other day and talked about trading it in where he quite sincerely offered $10000 as a trade in. Good ones are still bringing $25000-$30000 and he couldn't figure out why we just walked. We will sell it privately and just buy a new one for cash and not from that dealer.

We sold it privately for $25000. First person to look at it bought it. The sale from his arrival to submitting all the "paperwork" online took 35mins.
I must say I couldn't believe the number of scammers trying. I managed to have fun with some when I was in the mood.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by LG17

We sold it privately for $25000. First person to look at it bought it. The sale from his arrival to submitting all the "paperwork" online took 35mins.
I must say I couldn't believe the number of scammers trying. I managed to have fun with some when I was in the mood.

great result on the Hilux and I'm not surprised what you can get on the market for it.....
I keep tabs on them still having my 2010SR5 in good nic with 250k.
I loath to rid of it one day but can still get something like mid $20's for it.
The yoot market due to the high new price costs buying 2nd hand is like the current Falcon Commodore market tbh.
What did you end up buying LG ?

[LG17]

Originally Posted by FTE217

great result on the Hilux and I'm not surprised what you can get on the market for it.....I keep tabs on them still having my 2010SR5 in good nic with 250k.I loath to rid of it one day but can still get something like mid $20's for it.The yoot market due to the high new price costs buying 2nd hand is like the current Falcon Commodore market tbh. What did you end up buying LG ?

We bought an Everest Sport. Didn't need a dual cab any more as I just use the AU ute farm hack.

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[OneMadMan]

Birdwood museum...barn find

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[ford71V8]

The Caprice came with earphones ??

Reminds of the early HSV Commodore co-worker bought.
Headlight protectors were marked across the bottom with "Optional HSV Performance Excitement" or something similar.... made me chuckle.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

The Caprice came with earphones ??

Reminds of the early HSV Commodore co-worker bought.
Headlight protectors were marked across the bottom with "Optional HSV Performance Excitement" or something similar.... made me chuckle.

Now you mention it, I read that write up without second guessing head phone in 1991.
Found this sales brochure that confirms it.
Old man used to work at Holden/HSV so I’ve got a heap of these 1990s sales brochures somewhere.




And here’s another low mileage original Holden in NZ.
I thought the Caprice may garner some interest from Aus.
These here really have no relevance to Aus, assembled in NZ and the GTS were sticker packs with some fruit to get the VK, VL and VN out the door at the end of their model run.
The downside to this is broke **** Holden crack heads equate their flogged 6 cylinder GTS to $100k 300kw VT GTS and think they’re sitting on a gold mine.
Although the asking price for this one could probably be justified.

[Citroënbender]

Sub-category question; cheap towing pigs that can safely haul ~2300kg (realistic weight of car plus car trailer) pretty much “as built” and offer reasonable comfort/drivability/economy for longer tows.

XJ Cherokee?

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Sub-category question; cheap towing pigs that can safely haul ~2300kg (realistic weight of car plus car trailer) pretty much “as built” and offer reasonable comfort/drivability/economy for longer tows.

XJ Cherokee?

Too light IMO. They weigh 1.6 tonne.
When I was an apprentice I had one and my mate and I bought an old XJ6 Jag with a 351C in it as an optimistic project that never went anywhere. We used the XJ to tow it home and I nearly stacked it at 80kmh. Was only luck it didnt send us into the Armco.
What about the later WJ Cherokee with either the 2.7 MB diesel or 4.7 V8. I think the V8s can have valve or lifter issues, from memory.

I sold my X5 for $5k. 3.0 diesel and 6 speed auto you probably won’t get better than that as far as performance/economy/comfort/value goes.
Otherwise a W163 ML Mercedes? Can get ML500 or even ML55 for sub $10k. ML55 270kw and 550nm, or thereabouts.

[Citroënbender]

It’s a longer term “start looking” scheme to replace the tired out Mazda MPV, which is not really up to the job anyway. Something that can sit maybe six weeks, and is then expected to fire up, haul a solid load in whatever conditions, and thereafter be parked; forgotten again. As the Americans say of a horse, “Rode hard and put away wet”.

I do remember surprisingly poor parts support on the E53 chassis X5 and how hard it is consequentially, to re-bush the rear end.

[EBSXR6]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

The Caprice came with earphones ??

Reminds of the early HSV Commodore co-worker bought.
Headlight protectors were marked across the bottom with "Optional HSV Performance Excitement" or something similar.... made me chuckle.

Some Holden Performance devotees swallowed anything e.g. Polariser.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

It’s a longer term “start looking” scheme to replace the tired out Mazda MPV, which is not really up to the job anyway. Something that can sit maybe six weeks, and is then expected to fire up, haul a solid load in whatever conditions, and thereafter be parked; forgotten again. As the Americans say of a horse, “Rode hard and put away wet”.

I do remember surprisingly poor parts support on the E53 chassis X5 and how hard it is consequentially, to re-bush the rear end.

I had to replace the rear upper control arms (ball joint wear - negative camber) and front lowers.
Bought it all from rock auto, very cheap. They seem to have everything needed in their site.
Actually I’m looking at doing my FG, and I can do the whole suspension for an E53, E39, E46 far cheaper buying out of the US, than what I can for the Falcon (unless I’m looking in the wrong places).
Runauto also have a decent amount of inventory for them.


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[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Some Holden Performance devotees swallowed anything e.g. Polariser.

The Polariser definitely came to mind when I first saw that

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Some Holden Performance devotees swallowed anything e.g. Polariser.

For a certain period of time, (Somewhere in VT - VE commodore land) whenever you optioned something (Sunroof, tow bar, body kit, etc) Holden would put "HBD - Holden by Design" or "HSVI" as some sort of marketing spin.. All you had was an Executive/Acclaim/Berlina with an option... You see them on the used car market with halfwits trying to spruke HBD or HSVI as some sort of "limited edition" BS for more $$$... One born every minute...

Originally Posted by smoo

I sold my X5 for $5k. 3.0 diesel and 6 speed auto you probably won’t get better than that as far as performance/economy/comfort/value goes.
Otherwise a W163 ML Mercedes? Can get ML500 or even ML55 for sub $10k. ML55 270kw and 550nm, or thereabouts.

A mate had the next gen (E70) X5 3.0sd with the higher output diesel.. 210kw and 570oddnm... Cost him bugger all, towed well and was surprisingly quick... This was 4 or 5 years ago, but I assume they are still good value.. Obviously cant talk re: reliability and parts in general but his never gave him any major drama's over the years he owned it.. Hes a diesel mechanic which would of helped make sure he got a decent one. Only bought something else because someone ran into it at 50kph when it was parked...

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

The Caprice came with earphones ??

Reminds of the early HSV Commodore co-worker bought.
Headlight protectors were marked across the bottom with "Optional HSV Performance Excitement" or something similar.... made me chuckle.

I dunno, the ear phones in the back are kinda kool. Reminds me of simpler times if im honest.

My uncle had a VQ V8 Stateman, i was around 17 or so at the time so early 2000's or so.
It was a car that oozed appeal to me.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

For a certain period of time, (Somewhere in VT - VE commodore land) whenever you optioned something (Sunroof, tow bar, body kit, etc) Holden would put "HBD - Holden by Design" or "HSVI" as some sort of marketing spin.. All you had was an Executive/Acclaim/Berlina with an option... You see them on the used car market with halfwits trying to spruke HBD or HSVI as some sort of "limited edition" BS for more $$$... One born every minute...

Same thing applies for AU Falcon's with a Tickford option fitted. Think sunroof's, 17 or 18-inch wheels, dual fuel LPG (prior to DLPG), body kits, premium brakes (XR only), Momo steering wheels and gear knobs, these were all done off line at Tickford and had a engine bay Tickford plate.

Unless it was an XR, these vehicles were never actually badged as "Tickford" or carried the Tickford wings. So, just because you have a base Fairmont with a sunroof and Tickford option plate in the engine bay, that doesn't mean you have a "Tickford". Or the guys who put Tickford wings onto their Fairmont Ghia with the VCT engine, you know, because it has the "Tickford" engine.................just like every 6-cylinder Fairmont Ghia or Fairlane, as planned by FORD, not Tickford.

Can you tell this ticks me off?

[DJM83]

I put Tickford wings on my ED Fairmont.
I did fit a genuine ED XR front though

We were all young and dumb once i guess.

[rare ss]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

The Polariser definitely came to mind when I first saw that

The POLARIZER works!

Just needs to have the tyre pressures dropped to 22psi

Just on the VK GTS sticker pack or not 32k looks cheap even the prices of rusted out shells on the market in Oz

[janddbone]

No go with an XJ for towing, may as well use a Falcon. Pajero is the go, or Ssangyong were heavy built and no to bad a cheap option.

[jstanovic]

Pajero?

[smoo]

Tow car for you CB… keep your apprentice busy in between tows.


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