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Old 18-05-2007, 07:32 PM   #1
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As seen on Today tonight
Ford and Oldens seems to be equal last place in the poo pile, when comparing against the likes of Mazda etc.
51% of fords and 47% Oldens have faults reguardless of severity in the first 5 months.

Where all put down hard earn cash and where getting crap from our best.

I not saying dont but aussie grade metal but come on it has to get better.

PS a secret report based on customers feedback was leaked about the car industry today.And someones crankie about it

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Old 18-05-2007, 07:49 PM   #2
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I try to steer clear of the faecal matter that Today Tonight and A Current Affair peddle as 'factual reports'
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Old 18-05-2007, 07:53 PM   #3
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All that needs to be said is if Ford or Holden were as crap as some of those reports say they are.. no one would buy them... end of story
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Old 18-05-2007, 07:55 PM   #4
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of course theres going to be some lemons and teething problems...
every car has its problems...
im sure our beloved late 60s and early 70s falcons had their problems, i dont know i wasnt around... alhough not the same kind of problems we experience these days lol
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Old 18-05-2007, 07:58 PM   #5
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THeres no doubt about it, they are pretty crap *** when it comes to quality, simple things to!
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Old 18-05-2007, 07:59 PM   #6
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Lets kick the local industry while it is down.

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Old 18-05-2007, 08:03 PM   #7
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I admit that ford (and holden) are far behind other manufacturers in terms of quality. That still doesn't stop me from buying them though. Ford/Holden are still the best value for money when it comes to performance - especially in the used market.
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Old 18-05-2007, 08:06 PM   #8
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Today Tonight and A Current Affair have been poo for a long time but when they start to kick the local car industry during a "oil crisis" its time to draw the line.


God i hate those shows.
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Old 18-05-2007, 08:16 PM   #9
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What models are they talking about, or they trying to make a general comment, the amount of years that ford and holden have been aroun of course they will be higher in the % then alot of other cars.

Got a link to the full details?
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Old 18-05-2007, 09:15 PM   #10
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When our local stuff is competing against the worlds best manufacturers, who export all over the world, what can we expect.

When we can compete on the open market and not just local we might get a better product.

At least Holden is exporting to United Arab Emerist and the US, but limited models.
But for the money both aren't really that bad, sure there's going to be the odd lemon and until they build a car to a standard and not a price we'll keep getting what we have now.

It's all profit driven. At least some of the Asian makers and America have their workers rewarded with shares in the company which gives them an incentive to build it properly with a bit of pride.
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Old 18-05-2007, 09:37 PM   #11
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The report (compiled by AC Neilson??) was based on ALL complaints, minor and major faults within the first 5 months of ownership, and allegedly was requested by the manufacturers, hopefully to get some better quality builds.

As soon as i saw the story i knew it would get chopped up into "51% of Falcons are ****, and go back to the dealer" etc.
Full story here
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Old 18-05-2007, 09:40 PM   #12
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Thats total crap, I might as well buy a Holden and have a whinge about the indicator stalk bieng too hard to push down. But we all know its all a big load of ***** because its coming from today tonight, and we all know what kind of great news theyve brought us over the years...
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Old 18-05-2007, 09:42 PM   #13
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There was no official source given on their website just some leaked report crap
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Old 18-05-2007, 10:06 PM   #14
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This is the same Drive-com.au story that's already started a couple of threads on this forum. Somebody should now 'leak' the Wheels WASP tests to them.
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Old 18-05-2007, 10:17 PM   #15
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They did give a source - AC Nielsen research company (interestingly I have participated in that survey and wondered about the results).

The figures were not present other than percentages, and no indication was given to the severity of the faults - just that 51% of Falcons have faults in the first 5 months of ownership.

I do consider the significant trim, and fit/finish faults of my Territory as a negative on Ford - but I would much prefer to be owning a vehicle where pieces of the trim keep breaking repeatedly, than owning one of those Brand T vehicles which are inherently flawed in handling and character. They are the motoring equivalent of a lobotmy, combined with the dynamic prowess of a hippo - but they sell well and are reliable. And for some that's all they seek in a car, annonimity and punctuality...

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Old 18-05-2007, 10:25 PM   #16
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Whoops wrong thread!

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