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Old 05-06-2007, 06:04 PM   #31
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Well the falcon is over five years old but remember i think what $500, 000, 000 was spent on the BA Falcon as opposed to i think it was about $200, 000, 000 on the VY Commodore.

Running costs are only one part of the net expense of owning, operating and insuring a car.

P.s. Ill be right...but keep asking if you really want another guy to do so
Considering the chassis is based on the AU, the platform is actually 9 years old.
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:57 PM   #32
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This $200 odd dollars difference over the year may look big, but really when you take into account insurance costs of 2 completely different makes of car..this is where the variables start to come in, then throw in the biggest variable of them all which is age.
The weekly running costs for a 20 year old will be far greater than the the running costs of a 50 year old. So at the end of the day these figures are just a rough guide for the 'average' new car buyer and nothing more.
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:20 PM   #33
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Considering the chassis is based on the AU, the platform is actually 9 years old.
It's actually 80 % new in BA from AU.

Really the only things that carried over were the door openings and doors. These were married to a new front floor and ALL NEW rear end which had NO common parts with the AU.

I've had them both up on a hoist and they are REALLY VERY different (thus the extra weight in BA & BF vs AU). There are also some huge new chassis rails and lots of reinforcements in the BA chassis. The control link suspension is COMPLETLY different to the AU IRS (which was not the major seller in AU), and the rear end pressings (when you look under the car) look nothing like each other.

Ford spent $500 million on the BA I think. Well if you think about it most of that went on Sedan and the engine. Wagon and Ute really only had front end sheet metal changes and a new interior. That's a lot of money to spend on a carry over chassis. I think it (the $'s) explain the big change the BA was.

So when they put the new front suspension on Orion (as someone has rumoured here = Territory arms or something ?) it really has no AU platform in it and is really a further evolution on the huge chassis changes launched in 2002 with BA.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:50 PM   #34
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It's actually 80 % new in BA from AU.

Really the only things that carried over were the door openings and doors. These were married to a new front floor and ALL NEW rear end which had NO common parts with the AU.

I've had them both up on a hoist and they are REALLY VERY different (thus the extra weight in BA & BF vs AU). There are also some huge new chassis rails and lots of reinforcements in the BA chassis. The control link suspension is COMPLETLY different to the AU IRS (which was not the major seller in AU), and the rear end pressings (when you look under the car) look nothing like each other.

Ford spent $500 million on the BA I think. Well if you think about it most of that went on Sedan and the engine. Wagon and Ute really only had front end sheet metal changes and a new interior. That's a lot of money to spend on a carry over chassis. I think it (the $'s) explain the big change the BA was.

So when they put the new front suspension on Orion (as someone has rumoured here = Territory arms or something ?) it really has no AU platform in it and is really a further evolution on the huge chassis changes launched in 2002 with BA.
Still based on AU, its not a clean sheet, and I never said it was. Its still considered the same platform as the AU, no matter how much it was changed.
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