Aerial won't go down.

RG · 10-05-2007, 08:45 PM

I had to get an aftermarket CD player installed in the XR today since the factory stacker died last night and now when ever I put a CD in or turn the head unit off the aerial stays up. The only time it comes down now is when I turn the car off. Is there anyway to get it to work as it did with the factory unit again or am I going to have to get the factory unit put back in because having the aerial up shits me!

**Polyal** · 10-05-2007, 08:49 PM

Can you get a switch for it? I know some e series have a switch, mainly ghias I think.

Burley · 10-05-2007, 09:04 PM

wat head unit is it.....??? my pioneer didnt have a aerial wire so i got the aerial shaved and put one on the rear window....but yeh u can usually pull off the passenger kick panel in front of door....and hook up power , earth and switch...so u can put it up or down either on accessories or whenever keys are out....hoping this makes sense

RG · 10-05-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Burley

wat head unit is it.....??? my pioneer didnt have a aerial wire so i got the aerial shaved and put one on the rear window....but yeh u can usually pull off the passenger kick panel in front of door....and hook up power , earth and switch...so u can put it up or down either on accessories or whenever keys are out....hoping this makes sense

It's a JVC. It goes down when I turn the car off but it just won't go down when I change from radio to CD.

FGII-XR6 · 10-05-2007, 09:20 PM

it's the head unit some have this wierd setup and I'm afraid there is nothing you can do apart from returning the headunit and geting a different brand you'll find if you turn it off first it will go down my kenwood goes down when on CD and i belive alpine do too i've been told Pioneer have the same problem as yopu have so avoid these too

**Polyal** · 10-05-2007, 09:22 PM

If you get a switch then its problem solved without changing your HU, Im sure an AU Ghia would have it, even an EA Ghia did!

curtleyw · 10-05-2007, 09:24 PM

Unfortunately aftermarket HU's won't do the job because the wire that activates your electric antenna is also designed to switch amplifiers on. so if you inserted a CD the HU would switch the amp off lol. A major oversight in HU design if you ask me!

EDIT: sorry looks like i was a bit too slow

bodes-sh · 10-05-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by curtleyw

Unfortunately aftermarket HU's won't do the job because the wire that activates your electric antenna is also designed to switch amplifiers on. so if you inserted a CD the HU would switch the amp off lol. A major oversight in HU design if you ask me!

EDIT: sorry looks like i was a bit too slow

it's not all of the head units that do this, i have a sony one and it's only got a power antenna wire, i had an amp hooked up to it, but when i changed the source off radio it would switch the amp off

curtleyw · 10-05-2007, 09:35 PM

Jeez that would peev you off hey!
Sorry for the bum steer, just all me mates have had the same problem.

crusher · 10-05-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by curtleyw

Unfortunately aftermarket HU's won't do the job because the wire that activates your electric antenna is also designed to switch amplifiers on. so if you inserted a CD the HU would switch the amp off lol. A major oversight in HU design if you ask me!

EDIT: sorry looks like i was a bit too slow

My 2 year old headunit makes my ariel go up and down. When I turn the cd on it goes down. Radio on, it comes up. Car off, it goes down, car on it goes up if the radios on. No problems at all. Just like a bought one!

Im pretty sure your head unit would be able to do this. Take it back to the shop and have a whinge at them. I had to do that when mine wasnt connected at first. Had a whinge and its all sweet.

FGII-XR6 · 10-05-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by curtleyw

Unfortunately aftermarket HU's won't do the job because the wire that activates your electric antenna is also designed to switch amplifiers on. so if you inserted a CD the HU would switch the amp off lol. A major oversight in HU design if you ask me!

EDIT: sorry looks like i was a bit too slow

you are only partly correct here this is the issue with the HU in question but i know kenwood do have a proper aerial wire and i belive alpine do too

bodes-sh · 10-05-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by curtleyw

Jeez that would peev you off hey!
Sorry for the bum steer, just all me mates have had the same problem.

i got around it pretty easily tho, just spliced into the accessory power for the h/u, all fixed....sorry to go off topic

RG · 10-05-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

it's the head unit some have this wierd setup and I'm afraid there is nothing you can do apart from returning the headunit and geting a different brand you'll find if you turn it off first it will go down my kenwood goes down when on CD and i belive alpine do too i've been told Pioneer have the same problem as yopu have so avoid these too

The only reason the JVC is in there is because it was in the cupboard. I'll be replacing it with a good double din unit once JB Hi-Fi open their new store up here.

NC1183 · 10-05-2007, 11:00 PM

Nearly all aftermarket HU have a power anntena wire and an amp switch wire, even a couple of $180 cheap brand ones have it, curtleyw.

FGII-XR6 · 11-05-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NC1183

Nearly all aftermarket HU have a power anntena wire and an amp switch wire, even a couple of $180 cheap brand ones have it, curtleyw.

pioneer and jvc don't though even their upmarket ones

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JC · 11-05-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

pioneer and jvc don't though even their upmarket ones

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Actually, I have 2 JVC H/Us and they both have an amp remote wire, and an aerial remote wire. I would say whoever installed it used the amp remote wire (probably blue) to power the aerial, instead of the aerial wire (usually blue with white stripe). If you get this one wire changed, all your dreams will come true. Unless it's a really old unit, and then it may not have a separate wire in which case, a switch is the only thing you can use.

FGII-XR6 · 11-05-2007, 02:24 AM

I stand corrected on the JVC but i do know this is true for Pioneer and I can remember when they were the best go figure!

RG · 11-05-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Actually, I have 2 JVC H/Us and they both have an amp remote wire, and an aerial remote wire. I would say whoever installed it used the amp remote wire (probably blue) to power the aerial, instead of the aerial wire (usually blue with white stripe). If you get this one wire changed, all your dreams will come true. Unless it's a really old unit, and then it may not have a separate wire in which case, a switch is the only thing you can use.

You are right again JC. Just spoke to a stereo installer up here and he said that my model (KD-G805) being up upeer range model will have it so now it's just a matter of getting my brother to install it properly. Whilst were on the topic does anyone know if an aftermarket headunit can run the factory amp & sub or do I need to use the 2ch amp I have in the cupboard.

JC · 11-05-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RedXR347

You are right again JC. Just spoke to a stereo installer up here and he said that my model (KD-G805) being up upeer range model will have it so now it's just a matter of getting my brother to install it properly. Whilst were on the topic does anyone know if an aftermarket headunit can run the factory amp & sub or do I need to use the 2ch amp I have in the cupboard.

An amp is an amp, and will work as long as it's power rating/capability is compatible with the power output of the headunit, and the power draw of the speakers - actually, it's probably more the speaker power that's the issue. But, you may find that being a factory amp, it uses special connectors, not the standard RCA ones etc. Of course, if they're just normal connectors, then you should be right to use it.

superroo · 11-05-2007, 11:58 AM

Well if it turns out that it doesn't have the aerial trigger wire, i wrote a tech article on how to go about putting in a fully height adjustable switches using the amp trigger wire, click here
And for the record i've got a pioneer 7750 (about 4th best unit) from 2 years ago and it doesn't have an aerial wire

cheers

StealthAu · 11-05-2007, 12:38 PM

If its only going down when the cars turned off how can it be hocked up to the amp remote cable? if this was the case it should drop when the h/u is turned off.

RG · 11-05-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stockoau

If its only going down when the cars turned off how can it be hocked up to the amp remote cable? if this was the case it should drop when the h/u is turned off.

Good point, I get the feeling it's not hooked up to anything. Only one way to find out.

RG · 17-05-2007, 08:21 PM

Well it's fixed and there was a wire on the back for the aerial. Why the moron that installed it didn't use it is beyond me, it had a bloody sticker on it saying that it is the power aerial wire!!!

: The idiot also didn't fix the stereo into the dash in any way so it was just sitting on top of the pocket and was able to be pulled out really easily, that wasn't a difficult thing to fix either. That is the last time I pay anyone to do any stereo install of any kind.

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GlennBA · 18-05-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by curtleyw

Unfortunately aftermarket HU's won't do the job because the wire that activates your electric antenna is also designed to switch amplifiers on. so if you inserted a CD the HU would switch the amp off lol. A major oversight in HU design if you ask me!

EDIT: sorry looks like i was a bit too slow

I had 2 different sony head units when i had my AU and the electric antenna worked fine with both.

**DJM83** · 18-05-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXR347

Whilst were on the topic does anyone know if an aftermarket headunit can run the factory amp & sub or do I need to use the 2ch amp I have in the cupboard.

My factory amp and sub work fine in my car but i have the same trouble with my aerial but im not too fussed about it

Pies1 · 18-05-2007, 09:11 PM

I posted a similar thread about a month ago.

I bought and had installed a Pioneer H/U, only to discover it doesn't have a proper aerial control. Aerial is up always when the H/U is operating.

I haven't bothered chasing it any further with Jb Hifi. They wouldn't refund, and expected me to splash out another $150 or so on a higher end H/U instead.

Audiotech can install a switch for me instead, which is a better option.

OED666 · 18-05-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

Actually, I have 2 JVC H/Us and they both have an amp remote wire, and an aerial remote wire....

and thats how they should work. both JVC head units i have had work like that.

big bails · 05-07-2007, 02:36 PM

I bought a pioneer deck (9650) for my AU and it had seperate Amp On wire and power antenna wire although if i connected the antenna wire the antenna would always go up when i turn the keys onto acc even if i was playing a CD, so i bought a switch from supercheap for about $4 and connected it to the power antenna and another acc position wire. Im no auto electrician but it works a treat, just have to flick the switch on wheneva i change back to the radio. Hope this helps!