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Old 13-11-2007, 09:59 AM   #91
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I know it's lame but my uncles farm has millions of dirt roads everywhere and there is also an abandoned quarry. Probally a bit different to tarmac but I think it's good for getting a feel for being sideways.

the only times I have drifted on the roads is by accident. Through the mountains where I travel the road has really crap skid resistance (you know those roads that look really shiny).

All you need is a tiny bit of water and the place is a skating ring. You just give the throttle the tiniest feather touch and your fishtailing. Also the weight transfer from braking for the corners takes weight off the back and the tail flicks out not to mention spots where water pools on the road and you start aquaplaning.

Traction control does bugger all except scare the crap out of me because it changes what the car is doing. Really need to fix that road few too many people have died.
Just checking! Thats no probs. Just that if you did it in our streets near my place you would have ended up with a brick through your rear window as you 'fully drift' past!



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Old 13-11-2007, 11:49 AM   #92
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Don't confuse drifting with oversteering people.
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Old 13-11-2007, 12:05 PM   #93
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Don't confuse drifting with oversteering people.
Why..?



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Old 13-11-2007, 12:19 PM   #94
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Seriously someone here build a V8 drift weapon.

The ricers only have drifting left. Time to destroy them.

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tell that to the fastest rotary in aus running 8's street registered
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Old 13-11-2007, 12:33 PM   #95
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I know it's lame but my uncles farm has millions of dirt roads everywhere and there is also an abandoned quarry. Probally a bit different to tarmac but I think it's good for getting a feel for being sideways.
I learnt the majority of my car control 'skills' driving on gravel roads in forestries in NZ, started in escorts and moved up to xa-c falcons.
makes a big difference when you're on the road and the car hits black-ice or similar and you know how to correct it..
you also get good at holding powerslides when there's thousands of large pine trees both sides of you :

I reckon I might take my coupe out to one of the local drift practice sessions one day :hihi:
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Old 13-11-2007, 12:43 PM   #96
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I reckon I might take my coupe out to one of the local drift practice sessions one day :hihi:
Now that will be a muscle car drifting :
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Old 13-11-2007, 12:49 PM   #97
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From what i know (actually i just asked a friend who knows more than me ), for drifting, you would be better off with a longer wheel base car, rather than something shorter. The extra length means it takes longer to 'spin out' or 'lose' making it easier to hold a slide by giving you more time to catch it. Shorter wheel base cars may handle better and be generally faster around a track, but a big part of that is because they can change direction quicker. This probably isn't a huge problem for the average japanese dorifto champion of the world hero, but for the rest of us humans a longer wheel base is easier.

I dont mean a stupidly long wheel base, like a limo etc.. but something that has a highish wheel base to wheel track ratio. Obviously balance is pretty important also but your not going to find a muscle car with anything close to 50/50 weight distribution.

Anyway good luck with it.
Cheap Import LHD Porsche 928's (long wheelbase V8 and a transaxle) are about $10-13k these days.
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Old 13-11-2007, 01:26 PM   #98
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Cheap Import LHD Porsche 928's (long wheelbase V8 and a transaxle) are about $10-13k these days.
and damn ugly :

lots of potential though..
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Old 13-11-2007, 02:43 PM   #99
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Of course muscle cars can drift.........this is the best disPlay of driver control I've ever seen :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-kz8-KtoXM

Probably better on the oval track..........but has some fun at the end...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4XsO-CoRpE
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Old 18-11-2007, 01:11 PM   #100
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One annoying thing I commonly see/hear is people say they are/went drifting when they infact did nothing of the kind.

Flicking the back out is not drifting. Doing snakeys is not drifting. Entering corner sideways, holding a good angle and good lines, then exiting and maintaining angle is drifting.


Anyways, dug this thread up coz heres a couple falcons having a go- not quite muscle but falcons non the less. Hope its not a repost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nb6...eature=related
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Old 18-11-2007, 02:14 PM   #101
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One annoying thing I commonly see/hear is people say they are/went drifting when they infact did nothing of the kind.

Flicking the back out is not drifting. Doing snakeys is not drifting. Entering corner sideways, holding a good angle and good lines, then exiting and maintaining angle is drifting.


Anyways, dug this thread up coz heres a couple falcons having a go- not quite muscle but falcons non the less. Hope its not a repost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nb6...eature=related
wow, if that xe hasnt got power steering that guy must have arms like arrhhhnold.
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Old 18-11-2007, 02:46 PM   #102
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What about a Corvette Z06 or a Ford GTX-1, could have a lot of fun drifting in those new school muscle machines, and still have that awesome V8 burble that all the ricers will never ever mimic. Cost lots....Who cares.
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Old 19-11-2007, 03:41 AM   #103
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What about a Corvette Z06 or a Ford GTX-1, could have a lot of fun drifting in those new school muscle machines, and still have that awesome V8 burble that all the ricers will never ever mimic. Cost lots....Who cares.
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