Wheels August 2009

[4.0i_SiX]

Personally I would like to see ford move away from conventional ac compressors and start using Denso's new electric compressor. Theyre originally designed for hybrid cars but could easily be used in normal applications. If this were to be implemented, possibly along with earlier comments on electric waterpumps and powersteering pumps, it would have to go a long way towards improved fuel economy.

[vztrt]

Looking at the fuel figures for the DIV6, I hope Ford are gonna have some more reductions when the Euro 4 I6 comes online.

[PepeLePew]

New Holden Commodore MY10 V6 (for Commodore Omega and Berlina)
Engine: 3.0-litre V6
Power: 190kW at 6700rpm
***Torque: 290Nm at 2900rpm***
Recommended fuel: 91 RON (regular unleaded)
Fuel consumption: 9.3L/100km to 9.6L/100km (depending on model)

New Holden Commodore MY10 V6 (for Calais and Commodore SV6)
Engine: 3.0-litre V6
Power: 210kW at 6400rpm
***Torque: 350Nm at 2900rpm***
Recommended fuel: 91 RON (regular unleaded)
Fuel consumption: 10.1L/100km to 10.3L/100km (depending on model)

Torque will make it a 'interesting' drive? Also interesting the RPM levels these peak figures are achieved at.

[ltd]

Looks like it was all fuss over nothing, again.
No offence, but those power figures whilst impressive will play second fiddle to the serious lack of torque.
More Holden engines = more boat anchors.

[4Vman]

New Holden Commodore MY10 V6 (for Calais and Commodore SV6)
Engine: 3.0-litre V6
Power: 210kW at 6400rpm
***Torque: 350Nm at 2900rpm**

The P platers will be up in arms about this....

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by ltd

Looks like it was all fuss over nothing, again.
No offence, but those power figures whilst impressive will play second fiddle to the serious lack of torque.
More Holden engines = more boat anchors.

Its the fuel consumption that will get people (or more so fleets) to buy it.
If its geared properly with short gears it may be ok.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Its the fuel consumption that will get people (or more so fleets) to buy it.
If its geared properly with short gears it may be ok.

More to the point, it's claimed CO2 emissions for the 3.0L will get it through the door with Government fleets like StateFleet:



EDIT: I take that back. The tailpipe emissions will still put it over the threshold for everything bar executive-level usage.

[vztrt]

More of an update from car advice.

Although the conference has just begun we can bring you news already as follows:

* 3.0-litre SIDI V6: This new engine will produce 190kW at 6700rpm and 290Nm at 2900rpm and will manage a fuel consumption figure of 9.3L/100km (combined). The 3.0-litre unit will be available in Omega and Berlina sedan, Sportwagon and Ute models.
* 3.6-litre SIDI V6: The existing 3.6-litre unit will gain SIDI technology and will be available across the remainder of the VE range (SV6, Calais & Calais-V), as well as six-cylinder WM models. The engine will see a performance increase to 210kW at 6400rpm and 350Nm at 2900rpm.
* Transmissions: All SIDI V6 engines will now be mated to a six-speed automatic transmission as standard.
* LPG: LPG powered V6 engines now achieve a fuel economy figure of 13.4L/100km (combined) as well as being the most CO2 emission friendly car in its class.
* Price: Most VE and WM models will not see any increase over the current recommended retail price.
* E85: Next year an E85 fuelled alternative will also be made available with this engine to be exported globally. Export vehicles to be powered by the Aussie V6 include SAAB’s new 9-5 model.
* Design: Exhaust manifold integrated into cylinder head to advance quality, save weight, reduce construction cost and increase efficiency. 3.0-litre engine some 10kg lighter than 3.6-litre unit.
* Market: 3.0-litre engine claimed to be “sweet spot” for the current VE model range although a 2.8-litre unit was available. Holden may utilise this engine in the future as powertrain and vehicle weight changes come about or if the market calls for it.
* Export: Opportunity exists for Chinese export of engines in the near future.

Fuel Efficiency, CO2 and engine specification tables below

Fuel Efficiency, CO2 and engine specification tables below (click on image to enlarge):

[ea90gl]

Its always the same deal, the Commodore achieveing highest selling car in Oz due to large fleet sales yet everyone will scream it's Australia's best car......... will it ever end

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by ea90gl

Its always the same deal, the Commodore achieveing highest selling car in Oz due to large fleet sales yet everyone will scream it's Australia's best car......... will it ever end

Funny the cars that will be for the private sales don't really have a fuel advantage. But they now do have a power advantage.

[R-Design]

CarPoint joins the party. Ecoline badging, what a surprise!

Originally Posted by CarPoint

As predicted earlier today by the Carsales Network Holden this morning announced the addition of two new engines. Both engines will be V6 configuration and feature General Motors' direct injection technology.

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/lar...-engines-16100

[vztrt]

Holden cuts Commodore consumption

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576080011BDA2

Holden cuts Commodore consumption

New 3.0 and 3.6-litre direct-injection V6 engines boost Commodore efficiency

By MARTON PETTENDY 4 August 2009

GM HOLDEN has revealed a more fuel-efficient direct-injection 3.0-litre V6 for entry-level versions of its MY10 Commodore, to go on sale in September.

Fitted with GM’s Spark Ignition Direct Injection (SIDI) technology, the smallest Commodore engine since the 1986-1988 VL model’s 3.0-litre Nissan-sourced straight six, will reduce fuel consumption by a claimed 12 per cent.

The 3.0L SIDI engine will reduce the official average ADR81/02 fuel consumption of the base Commodore Omega and Berlina sedan, which will both increase in price by $700, from 10.6 litres per 100km to a class-leading 9.3L/100km.

Codenamed LF1, the same engine, which is already built at Port Melbourne for export to GM brands globally, also improves the efficiency of the Omega Sportwagon by 13 per cent (from 10.7 to 9.3L/100km) and the Berlina Sportwagon by 10 per cent – from 10.7 to 9.6L/100km.

Announced a week after Ford Australia revealed it will produce its first (turbocharged) four-cylinder Falcon from 2011, the new entry-level Commodore engine is more efficient than the Toyota Aurion’s 200kW/336Nm 3.5-litre V6 and the Falcon’s current 195kW/391Nm 4.0-litre inline six – both of which return as little as 9.9L/100km with a six-speed automatic transmission.

The new Euro 4 emissions-compliant 3.0-litre Commodore engine produces 190kW at 6700rpm and 290Nm of torque from 2900rpm. Previously, the base 3.6-litre Commodore engine produced 180kW and 330Nm, while the LPG engine option continues to offer 175kW/325Nm.

SIDI technology has also been fitted to the Commodore’s current 3.6-litre V6, which is now codenamed LL4, and delivers 210kW at a lower 6400rpm and 350Nm at the same 2900rpm – up from 195kW/340Nm.

The upgraded 3.6 SIDI V6 will be available in the SV6 sedan wagon and ute, the Calais and Calais V sedan and wagon, and the long-wheelbase Statesman and Caprice sedans.

The 3.6-litre SIDI engine improves fuel economy in the premium models by between seven and 13 per cent, with the Calais’ fuel economy improving from 11.2 to 9.9L/100km.

Both SIDI V6’s will be part of Holden’s new EcoLine range, and both will come standard with GM’s 6L50 six-speed automatic transmission, which Holden says delivers new levels of powertrain refinement, performance and shift feel.

According to Holden, Australia’s top-selling car will cost $325 less to run at a current indicative price of $1.25/litre, while also producing 600kg less carbon emissions in the course of an average 20,000km year.

While there is no mention of the use of weight-saving aluminium panels as widely expected, Holden says that weight reductions have been achieved, along with the fitment of low rolling resistance tyres and other fuel-saving upgrades.

While the base Ute and LPG models will continue to come with GM’s archaic four-speed automatic, the latter is claimed to offer improved efficiency, with the Omega sedan LPG’s consumption dropping six per cent, from 14.2 to 13.4L/100km.

GM Holden chairman and managing director Mark Reuss said the new engines would extend the Commodore’s reign as Australia’s top-selling vehicle.

“People are telling us they want lower operating costs while keeping the flexibility of the Commodore’s size – so that is exactly what we are offering,” Mr Reuss said. “Direct-injection technology is a major step forward for the Australian car industry. It places a more refined Commodore amongst four cylinder competitors while delivering the space and flexibility which Australian car buyers clearly want.

“Australians and Australian families aren’t getting any smaller, distances aren’t getting any closer but customer expectations in terms of fuel efficiency and environmental impacts are changing fast.

“Holden understands that and this new technology is our response. It exploits the technology potential of an advanced, all-alloy engine made right here

[KW XRT]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

The real scary thing is in a couple of years my XR8 will be outpowered by the base family hack :

Lucky you didn't buy one of those 185I powerhouses you'd realy have something to worry about.

[phillyc]

* Design: Exhaust manifold integrated into cylinder head to advance quality, save weight, reduce construction cost and increase efficiency. 3.0-litre engine some 10kg lighter than 3.6-litre unit.

Suprised no-one else picked this up. So, the GM Commodore aftermarket for headers/extractors has now just gone!

One less mod they can do, which will make it even easier to beat them in a drag.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by KW XRT

Lucky you didn't buy one of those 185I powerhouses you'd realy have something to worry about.

Lucky he didn't buy a 220kw VT1 GTS only to have it matched by the povvo pack VT2 Executive with the Gen3 2 years later

[R-Design]

Vehicle specification changes will be made available closer to launch.

Originally Posted by CarPoint

The adoption of the new SIDI V6 engines is cause enough for fanfare, says Holden -- who needs the Series II hoopla?

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/lar...ommodore-16105

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by naddis01

All estimations from the article:
3.6L - 225kW @ 6400rpm, 370Nm @ 5200rpm.
3.0L - 200kW @ 7000rpm, 302Nm @ 5700rpm.

FG for comparison:
4.0L - 195kW @ 6000rpm, 391Nm @ 3250rpm.

Pretty good effort really for the 3.6 albeit high in the rev range. Out does 100Nm per litre. Thats if they are on the money, but they are using some results from Cadillac as a benchmark.

Nice to see that Wheels were sooo accurate once again.

The figures are nowhere near correct...

[Road_Warrior]

lol. Wheels = pwned.

[zebby]

I wonder who will make cover in next months edition????

Could it possibly be Commodore two months in a row???