new 325 hsv

[1TUFFUTE]

gee has anyone read the new mag wih the 325 hsv i think it is. they go on about how awesome an powerful an quick it is an the time they give is a quarter mile of 13.54. flicked to the back of the mag an the old typhoon is still dion 13.3s..pah domination id sat....again biased rubish mags...unless your a v8 only person of course hahah..i had to add that o...

[Bossxr8]

I don't know why they keep talking up the extra 8 kw it gets over the Clubsport, its adds no extra torque and you could not even tell the difference between them.

The question needs to be asked as to why they kept the torque pegged to 550nm when the near identical 325kw engine in the Corvette makes 575nm. The extra 25 nm would have made a real difference.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I don't know why they keep talking up the extra 8 kw it gets over the Clubsport, its adds no extra torque and you could not even tell the difference between them.

The question needs to be asked as to why they kept the torque pegged to 550nm when the near identical 325kw engine in the Corvette makes 575nm. The extra 25 nm would have made a real difference.

If you believe HSV they have said it is because the drivetrain can't handle any more power.....yeah i don't believe it either. Not sure why they did that..could be they want to bring that out later i dont' know. Also its worth noting that the higher engine horsepower is just due to the exhaust basically....its the same engine as far as i can tell just a freer flowing exhaust a and slight retune to match.

[The Monty]

Wow, way to build a car to the most extreme limits, cant add a tune without the driveline giving up, pfffft.

[Iggypoppin']

And phoon owners tune the crap out of the 6t and have no problems till over 400 kw, says a bit eh.

[GTJOHN]

is this the but ugly red thing they kept advertising on bathurst day? the one with the defprmed double grille???....if so..damn its ugly ...fast or not cant make thing look ay better....yuck!!!!!

[nugget378]

Originally Posted by 76txcoupe

And phoon owners tune the crap out of the 6t and have no problems till over 400 kw, says a bit eh.

HSV drivers do exactly the same thing, the manufacturer that has to give a warranty has to be more consevative, and it would be the same for FPV.

[Iggypoppin']

but the phoons smoke em nugget ;) spoke in jest though

[NudgE^SIKBRO]

ahh, drive train can handle more, reason things are left the way they are is to keep the mod shops open, its a proven fact

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by Swordsman88

If you believe HSV they have said it is because the drivetrain can't handle any more power.....

Yet HSV Support the Use of Walkinshaw Performance products & Tuning..

The LS3 has a heap in reserve and all in all apears to be a great Engine, more than capable of giving quite a few I6T's a whipping around the block.

[XW 393]

But the HSV's have parts double sided taped on to every panel, they must be better.

[whales]

You can say what you like about them but they will outsell anything FPV throw at it because they are different to the evryday Commodore where as the FPV look virtually the same. Just like the Commodre with SIDI it doesn't matter if what they say is crap about it's fuel consumption, torque, power, crap Auto. etc etc they will sell like hotcakes and Ford is again 18 months behind.
No wonder they will never out sell GMH

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by whales

You can say what you like about them but they will outsell anything FPV throw at it because they are different to the evryday Commodore where as the FPV look virtually the same. Just like the Commodre with SIDI it doesn't matter if what they say is crap about it's fuel consumption, torque, power, crap Auto. etc etc they will sell like hotcakes and Ford is again 18 months behind.
No wonder they will never out sell GMH

i dont agree, a GTS doesnt look different enough from a clubsport which doesnt look different enough from an SS.

they will however outsell FPV because they have a better marketing dept, just look at the ads on tv, FPV ads were 15sec long where HSV had one of the best ads ive seen (changing utes leading to the VE). it was head and shoulders better

[pottery beige]

I'd just like to jump in one and drop a big skid..

[Brett3158]

On the seat, or on the road?

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Brett3158

On the seat, or on the road?

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

gee has anyone read the new mag wih the 325 hsv i think it is. they go on about how awesome an powerful an quick it is an the time they give is a quarter mile of 13.54. flicked to the back of the mag an the old typhoon is still dion 13.3s..pah domination id sat....again biased rubish mags...unless your a v8 only person of course hahah..i had to add that o...

Are you stoned or drunk?

[SVD]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

they will however outsell FPV because they have a better marketing dept, just look at the ads on tv, FPV ads were 15sec long where HSV had one of the best ads ive seen (changing utes leading to the VE).

Ford should have done an add like that....
We made the ute and we keep making it better then everyone else....The new Ford FG ute Built tough for everyday work like it should be. :

woops... back on topic: all they've done is try and make it something its not (euro styled day time driving lights... GAY! ) the front looks like a snow plow and the rear is still too damn high! dont mind the optional wheels though, they look kinda tough....

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Brett3158

On the seat, or on the road?

[4Vman]

Yes.. people spend 70+K on a HSV because they like the ads better..... : :

[whales]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Yes.. people spend 70+K on a HSV because they like the ads better..... : :

No! they spend $70k because they think its a better vehicle because they are brainwashed into thinking so, and it doesn't have to be $70k it's right down to the car Mr and Mrs Average are looking at to buy......very clever marketing I'd say

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by whales

No! they spend $70k because they think its a better vehicle because they are brainwashed into thinking so, and it doesn't have to be $70k it's right down to the car Mr and Mrs Average are looking at to buy......very clever marketing I'd say

Same thing isnt it...?

As they say: Stupid people and their money are easily separated...

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by whales

No! they spend $70k because they think its a better vehicle because they are brainwashed into thinking so, and it doesn't have to be $70k it's right down to the car Mr and Mrs Average are looking at to buy......very clever marketing I'd say

thankyou

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Yes.. people spend 70+K on a HSV because they like the ads better..... : :

thats how marketing works, if ya want to make any more smartass remarks to me send a pm, this is the third today

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by whales

You can say what you like about them but they will outsell anything FPV throw at it because they are different to the evryday Commodore where as the FPV look virtually the same. Just like the Commodre with SIDI it doesn't matter if what they say is crap about it's fuel consumption, torque, power, crap Auto. etc etc they will sell like hotcakes and Ford is again 18 months behind.
No wonder they will never out sell GMH

FPV have outsold HSV in SWB sedans on a number of occasions, so don't be so quick to assume HSV kill FPV in sales.

FPV's new model is around 7-8 months away.

[1TUFFUTE]

and the diff is fpv dont even need to add performance to the car cus it allready dominates...they can spend the money on other things, like keeping the company outa bankruptcy..haha