Holden hates it's customers...

[washoutbeach]

A mate of mine spends 70k on a beefy commie a year or so and gets the extra warrantee. That's close to the average salary.

Between 12 and 13 months later, the battery carks it after about 30 mins of illuminating a front of a house ( moving in ). I remember when they would glow for days!

He rings holdens famous roadside assistance only to be told the service expired a short time ago and that the fat lady had sung.

So now he has a poor impression of gmh. He thinks they are uncaring.

Suffice to say lads that his next expensive muscle car will be one of ours.

[pottery beige]

so.. he left his lights on without the engine running.. ends up with flattery battery.. and its someone elses problem.......

[Yellow_Festiva]

Jump start it and be done with it.... Battery isn't finished, just flat.

Head lights that stayed on for days??? Thats a first!

[Professor Farnsworth]

it's not Holden's fault that he drained the battery.. surely with a jump or trickle charge it'd be fine again once it goes for a good half hour run or so to charge it via the alternator..

[Franco Cozzo]

I don't think 30 minutes of leaving the headlights on would flatten a battery dead flat, or kill it completely if the car is off, unless ignition is on as well.

And anyways if you're going to do that, leave the car running.

When you start completely discharging your average normal car battery, you'll shorten its life quite quickly, they don't like being run flat and being charged up again, that is deep cycle battery territory.

My Focus battery dropped a cell, was rooted and I didn't do anything like that, dodgy Motorcraft battery for you, another Focus owner had the same issue, it wouldn't hold any charge, at one stage I couldn't even roll start it as there was nothing keeping the ECU going.

Then I couldn't jump start it because the old man's Mazda 323 didn't have enough juice to crank her over fast enough .

Falcon saved the day.

[naddis01]

Don't you need some special sort of charger with the VE? One of my mates had an earlier VE which had endless electrical issues including multiple dead batteries but he was unable to charge it with a normal charger. He ended up getting rid of it and went back to a VZ.

[MrEL]

Does your mate want them to change his tyres too because they wore out with driving?
Maybe Holden should be caring enough to fill his fuel tank every time it needs doing as well.

[Ben73]

If I have to use headlights to see at night, I just leave the engine running. Helps when it's not your car or fuel
Surly if your mate can afford a 70,000 car and a new house he can leave his car idling for 30 mins and spend about an extra dollar on fuel.

Is extensive idling actually bad for you vehicle?

[DaveD]

I think the title of this thread is a bit harsh TBH.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Is extensive idling actually bad for you vehicle?

well, yes.

[chrisfpv]

Originally Posted by washoutbeach

A mate of mine spends 70k on a beefy commie a year or so and gets the extra warrantee. That's close to the average salary.

Between 12 and 13 months later, the battery carks it after about 30 mins of illuminating a front of a house ( moving in ). I remember when they would glow for days!

He rings holdens famous roadside assistance only to be told the service expired a short time ago and that the fat lady had sung.

So now he has a poor impression of gmh. He thinks they are uncaring.

Suffice to say lads that his next expensive muscle car will be one of ours.

Does your mate want a GMH rep to come wipe his bum every time he goes to the toilet too?
You'd think someone who has the money to splash out $70,000 on a car would have some sort of common sense.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Is extensive idling actually bad for you vehicle?

I've had no issues with my car doing it, the only problem I could possibly see is that it might overheat because besides the thermofans coming on ocasionally, there isn't any air taking the heat away from the radiator.

But I've left my EL Falcon idling for 2-3 hours in the driveway with no issues in one hit, I've used about 60L of fuel just idling it away in the driveway since I've had it. The only issue I see is that the alternator output dropped to 11V with all the electrics on, but I think thats because the alternator is probably rooted as its covered in power steering oil, which craps out the brushes and slip rings.

Had no overheating issues at all, same with my WS Fiesta and LV Focus, both idle for periods of around 30 minutes every morning.

[AndyXR6T]

I like where this thread is going

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I've had no issues with my car doing it, the only problem I could possibly see is that it might overheat because besides the thermofans coming on ocasionally, there isn't any air taking the heat away from the radiator.

But I've left my EL Falcon idling for 2-3 hours in the driveway with no issues, besides the thermo fans going on/off and same with my Fiesta and Focus.

i once became distracted at the mechanics and left my old EL Ghia I6 idling for 20 minutes.. the next week it was back there for a head gasket

mind you it's not the first e series with a blown head gasket but it was the catalyst for it going

there are many areas of an engine which can suffer from excessive idling

anyway back OT, the thread is a little redundant.

[Nikked]

Sounds like your typical HSV buyer, clueless crybaby...


"I left my lights on and the battery went flat, but its not my fault"

[nstg8a]

good to see common sense prevails here, even when it is the other team involved.


i agree with all who have posted, except the op lol

[HUNTER8]

Tell him to stay a Commodore driver. Heaven knows we have enough Ford drivers whingeing about nothing without having an ex Commodore driver doing the same.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

i once became distracted at the mechanics and left my old EL Ghia I6 idling for 20 minutes.. the next week it was back there for a head gasket

mind you it's not the first e series with a blown head gasket but it was the catalyst for it going

there are many areas of an engine which can suffer from excessive idling

anyway back OT, the thread is a little redundant.

Probably all the better it blows in my driveway rather than when its on the road I guess

[Auslandau]

I think we get the drift on where this one is heading .......

Gotta say though ...... to change brands because the battery went flat because the lights were left on ...... bit fickle?