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Old 15-01-2024, 04:57 PM   #1
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Cummins hit with a $1.675 billion penalty for intentionally selling defeat devices that could bypass emissions sensors, a direct violation of the US Clean Air Act,



Vehicles affected include 2013 - 2023 RAM Trucks with Cummins diesel power-trains.


https://jalopnik.com/cummins-hit-wit...nal-1851123885


I wonder if it's Stellantis or Cummins that is liable?
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Old 16-01-2024, 07:14 AM   #2
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Cummins hit with a $1.675 billion penalty for intentionally selling defeat devices that could bypass emissions sensors, a direct violation of the US Clean Air Act,



Vehicles affected include 2013 - 2023 RAM Trucks with Cummins diesel power-trains.


https://jalopnik.com/cummins-hit-wit...nal-1851123885


I wonder if it's Stellantis or Cummins that is liable?
meh, Nice one Cummins.
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I'm curious as to exactly what these "defeat devices" were..... about the only way I can interpret any of the articles is that the "devices" could be as simple as not somehow preventing the ECU from being rewritten by anyone with suitable software and a laptop.

But that said, considering how fast hackers manage to crack the latest playstations, etc, I can imagine trying to keep tuners out of an ECU would result in 99% of an ECU's function being self preservation..... either that or someone would simply find a way of adapting a generic aftermarket ECU
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Old 16-01-2024, 01:25 PM   #4
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I'm curious as to exactly what these "defeat devices" were
Cummins installed alleged defeat device software in diesel engines that were supplied to Fiat Chrysler for Ram 2500 and 3500 vehicles, model years 2013-2019. The emission control software contained an alleged defeat device that was designed to control emissions during certification but illegally reduced the effectiveness of the emission control during real world on-road driving.

Sounds like they did a VW.
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Cummins installed alleged defeat device software in diesel engines that were supplied to Fiat Chrysler for Ram 2500 and 3500 vehicles, model years 2013-2019. The emission control software contained an alleged defeat device that was designed to control emissions during certification but illegally reduced the effectiveness of the emission control during real world on-road driving.

Sounds like they did a VW.

It's all very interesting. I wonder who is on the hook, Cummins who may have certified the engine, or Stellantis who certifies the pick-up truck?


I also wonder have GM or Ford done likewise?
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Old news.......https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11499659
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