Petrol Price crisis......

[vztrt]

Does anyone think that BP Ultimate at 19c/l more then 91 is a big rip off?

[Mowdit]

Maybe ....

What most people don't realise (from what ive been led to believe) is that the independents just add ethanol to bring the octane up to 98, and doesn't include all the little extra bits, additives/lubricants that the Major suppliers do.
(pls correct me if I am wrong, but I did get told by a manager within a major importing brand)

So, if you buy BP 98 at 19 cents more GREAT.
Question is,
If you buy 98 from an independent for 17 cents more, are you really getting what is good for your car

[chizzy86]

Some family own an independent servo (Liberty) and they just buy fuel off Caltex.

[Mowdit]

Originally Posted by chizzy86

Some family own an independent servo (Liberty) and they just buy fuel off Caltex.

It does vary.
Depending on demand.......
It does happen when the major's get held up on fuel delivery
One will buy off the other and visa versa
They are supposed to meet a min requirement for fuel and do monitor heavily.
(we have all had the experience of "qualified", but SH** job before)
(there are those who go beyond, and those that make do).....

The major fuel companies do try, and they are all monitored but there is passing and excelling.

It used to be that the fuel carrier (transport contractor) would pick up from the distribution centre, add in a sachet of the appropriate companies fuel colour and voila !

Keep in mind, up until a few years ago :
Both Shell and Caltex had refineries in NSW (now both closed) BP has one refinery in WA, Caltex one in Qld, Mobil and Shell/ new owners in Vic......
We use more than they produce, so generally nothing is sent interstate, the balance imported (from Singapore or elsewhere) there are other importers in the market now also,
so generally speaking "your fuel can come from anywhere", its the additives and repeated checking the Major outlets do that does make a difference .

Mistakes happen, I knew a bloke who got a Refinery Technicians job, he transferred 1,200,000lt of 98 octane into a 95 octane storage tank that was nearly empty by mistake, it couldn't be sold as 98, and wasn't worth re processing, so was sold as 95, even though it was more 97.7 octane !!

Keep in mind also, that your local servo is generally a franchise, and mistakes (water from leeching/ rain/loose filler caps) do happen.

We/I buy from either Caltex or Shell badged outlets, (not Woolworth's or any other, unless desperate).....

[EBSXR6]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

It does vary.

We/I buy from either Caltex or Shell badged outlets, (not Woolworth's or any other, unless desperate).....

A mate manages a BMW motorbike Service department and they advise the customers against using Shell 98. He said BP is fine.

[vztrt]

http://www.theage.com.au/business/ma...0150715-gichk0

A bit of a drop to fuel prices.

With the latest Iran deal it might get even cheaper.

[joolz]

Originally Posted by vztrt

http://www.theage.com.au/business/ma...0150715-gichk0

A bit of a drop to fuel prices.

With the latest Iran deal it might get even cheaper.

Wont mean much here as we go by Tapis crude.

[Syndrome]

Back under $50 per barrel.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Back under $50 per barrel.

With a barrel containing approx. 158 litres, it equates to approx. 32 cents a litre. Its quite clear these days that there is very little connection between the petrol price, and the oil price. If a barrel of oil was $1, you would be lucky to get petrol for under 80 cents a litre.

[Syndrome]

Under $48 per barrel.

[buggerlugs]

$1.22 for diesel yesterday. 20 cents cheaper than unleaded........

[joolz]

Melbourne back up to $149.9 for 91 unleaded. That's the same price when the unleaded wholesale price peaked at $112 a barrel. Its currently at about $99 a barrel. The AUD is about the same.

[Trump]

That is disgusting, I poured 95RON last night for $1.28/L. Saw the same servo selling it today for $1.57. Where the hell is the ACCC to take action against these arshats??? That's an almost 25% increase for 91RON in one hit you thieving mongrels!!!

[Syndrome]

Under $47 per barrel.

[bazza91]

I dont think that the wholesale price of oil has anything to do with what we get charged at the bowser. Oil could be 1c per barrel and our price per L of petrol would go up!
They are scamming f*cks. The ACCC wont do a damn thing because they are either getting money under the table or they consider it too much hard work.
The thing that gets me is when the cheeky b*****ds put the price up the day before a long weekend and then dont drop the price til a week after it.

[vztrt]

Not that I take much from Greenwood but:

http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/today...4396411090001/

[Syndrome]

Down around the $42 per barrel mark.

[joolz]

Unleaded in Melbourne $122.7 but it is at the low end of the cycle. I wonder what price they pull out of their **** for the high end!

[wicksy]

Work this one out

Shell 98 in Blackwater, QLD (small mining town) was $160.9
Shell 98 in Mackay,QLD (largish City) $165.9

how does that work??

[Syndrome]

http://www.smh.com.au/business/marke...19-gj399g.html

Wow - ten year low. Who would have predicted that when this thread was started?

[mik]

For 95 ron ... $ 1.31.5 caltex reservoir yesterday, and supposed to be another cent or two down on the weekend according to my servo bud, a nice change from 1.60+ a litre.

[Terry tuf truck]

You's have it easy! I pay $2.42 for bp ultimate 98 in nz. Cost me roughly $40 for a trip to town and back!

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by Terry tuf truck

You's have it easy! I pay $2.42 for bp ultimate 98 in nz. Cost me roughly $40 for a trip to town and back!

No way!

The most I've paid for fuel is $1.95/l and that gave me heart burn.

[Terry tuf truck]

Oh yer we got it good over here! Lol

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Terry tuf truck

You's have it easy! I pay $2.42 for bp ultimate 98 in nz. Cost me roughly $40 for a trip to town and back!

Partly due to the higher excises you guys have over there (and lower exchange rate), but you need to look at the overall tax that you pay. On a $100,000 income in Australia, we pay nearly $27,000 in taxes, but in NZ you pay $25,000 in taxes. I am sure your government wouldnt mind lowering your fuel taxes, if you agreed to pay more income tax.

[Syndrome]

With the stock market carnage crude has dropped below $40 per barrel for the first time since 2009.

Crisis?

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

With the stock market carnage crude has dropped below $40 per barrel for the first time since 2009.

Crisis?

Does that mean we will see bowser prices at $1.00 per litre again like we did at xmas?

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

With the stock market carnage crude has dropped below $40 per barrel for the first time since 2009.

Crisis?

Filled the GT up today with V power. $1.29/L with voucher. Sweet as !

[PETE_XR6]

the school holidays are days away, will the price go up or down?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by PETE_XR6

the school holidays are days away, will the price go up or down?

Is that a trick question ?