Just a few questions

[f6.au]

So its time for me to buy my first car... i was looking at ba xr6s but atm there over 10gz for a decent one... so i had a look at some ba xts but there rare to find under 10gz with low k's (auto's)... so im keen on getting a 03 vy commodore anyways thats besides the point... can anyone tell me how low your car must be and rim size etc im not really sure of the legal requirements and last thing i need is to be pulled over and defected... Is there a way to chuck 20" rims on your car without getting defected ? Isnt it 2inches above your stock rim, and in terms of how low the car is, you gotta be able to put a coke can under your car ? btw im in nsw... Any helpful responses would be much appreciated.... thanks guys

i tried finding the info i needed but to no avail.


p.s im a hardcore ford fan, but these i6's are just to expensive for me atm...

thinking of putting 20" ve hsv rims and get them painted matte black or something =D...

[Mr Brooksy]

Hi mate,

I called the RTA of NSW a few months back, asking about the minimum ride height of a car. It's 100mm. Nothing bar the tires are allowed any lower than that.

On the VY front, I had 3. Gearboxes (Manuals and Autos) are rubbish; I had all of them replaced in the first 3 months (gearboxes I mean)! CD players are of similar quality. I only had 2 replaced and one reset.
I'd go for a VX, if you want a Commy. I had 3 of those and they were lightyears better!

Good Luck

[f6.au]

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

Hi mate,

I called the RTA of NSW a few months back, asking about the minimum ride height of a car. It's 100mm. Nothing bar the tires are allowed any lower than that.

On the VY front, I had 3. Gearboxes (Manuals and Autos) are rubbish; I had all of them replaced in the first 3 months (gearboxes I mean)! CD players are of similar quality. I only had 2 replaced and one reset.
I'd go for a VX, if you want a Commy. I had 3 of those and they were lightyears better!

Good Luck

Thanks for clearing that up mate, very much appreciated !

yeah the vx doesnt do it for me, looks like a boat, and well the au... lets not go there... i was reading up on other forums, apprantely if i go over 2inches i must get engineer cert.. but the problem is, i dont want to buy the rims then the engineer says sorry no can do..... anyone else been in this pos ?

[ch33z1l]

20"'s on a base model would be like steering a boat anyway. Better to get something smaller and have better drivability and not have to replace tyres and rims every 3 months.

Ive seen a few VP's with 20" mags, and had to laugh at the berth they give themselves to get around a simple corner.

Why not look at 19's instead of 20's?

[f6.au]

cause i love the ve hsv rims and they dont come in 19s...

i was thinking of b.boss elanors in black... i can get them in 18s and 19s....

im pretty sure base model vy como aka poverty pack came with 15s ?

but then using the 2inch rule, i can only put 17s which looks house :s

[Black F6]

I thought it was 2 sizes bigger than the biggest option they came with

[f6.au]

so did i... is there a way around going over the 2inches ?

[Fev]

It's very VERY easy to find BA(1 or 2's) for under 10k!! Look up the fleet auctions for sure! anything under 80 thousand kays is low kays for a BA and they last almost forever if they are serviced regularly and driven normally. fleet cars usually always have good service history

[f6.au]

Originally Posted by Fev

It's very VERY easy to find BA(1 or 2's) for under 10k!! Look up the fleet auctions for sure! anything under 80 thousand kays is low kays for a BA and they last almost forever if they are serviced regularly and driven normally. fleet cars usually always have good service history

hell yeah anything under 100 is effing great for me.... where can i find these fleet sales ? i no pickles auctions, should i just go to the auctions and get one from there ?

[Paddyboy]

Hey there, ive had a vx and a vy for a work car, and they're comfortable but driveline is rubbish, the i6 is stacks better. My vx had 19's and was lowered on superlows and it didnt drive very well, felt like a boat. If you're budget allows for 20's and lowering and enough left over to pay an engineer i'd say spend an extra couple of grand on a BA XT or XR6. Even if it means you can only afford the rims, then save up to dump it, much much much better choice.

[f6.au]

ba xr6 imo looks also alot better, do you reckon i can pickup an xr6 for 9-10ish ?

on drive.com.au there was a ba xt that ran a 14.5 stock......i showed some holden lovers, and they went ape , couldnt belive it.... i cant either....

[Black F6]

Originally Posted by f6.au

ba xr6 imo looks also alot better, do you reckon i can pickup an xr6 for 9-10ish ?

on drive.com.au there was a ba xt that ran a 14.5 stock......i showed some holden lovers, and they went ape , couldnt belive it.... i cant either....

BA XT I cant believe it either, more like 15.4

[f6.au]

I shall dig it up and post up the link to night.... 14.5, i went ape when i read it

[Black F6]

My BFXR6 wouldnt run 14.5 stock

[f6.au]

drive.com.au

the article was on there.....

it was an xt up against a porche cayenne and a 200kw tarago... google it

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=44733

" The Falcon has a huge weight advantage here, more than half a tonne lighter. But the Porsche retains an edge through all-wheel drive, although the rear-drive Falcon should launch better than the front-drive Tarago. The Falcon's quickest time to 60ft is 2.165, about one-tenth better than the Cayenne. By 330ft, it's three-tenths quicker and its fastest time is 14.593secs, almost a second quicker. Terminal speed was 154.32km/h. "

[XR6_661]

Don't rush into buying one...Take your time and look around.

I got my BA XR6 2 years ago for 16g.

I saw an xr6t go for 12g and a mate bought an 03 XR6 for 6500...bargains are there mate, you just gotta look hard and be willing to haggle a good price.

Personally, I'd be trying to find a cheap BA XT. MkII perhaps even if the budget can stretch.

Good luck.

[Bad Bird]

Originally Posted by ch33z1l

20"'s on a base model would be like steering a boat anyway. ?

Indeed. What is it with P-platers and wanting 20" wheels that make the car drive like a bucket of crap?

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

Indeed. What is it with P-platers and wanting 20" wheels that make the car drive like a bucket of crap?

Because it's THEIR car and they have every right to make it just the way they like.

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[alter_EGOXR]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

Indeed. What is it with P-platers and wanting 20" wheels that make the car drive like a bucket of crap?

i think its a phase people go thru :P

[Springfield_Johny]

Originally Posted by BFXRScott

I thought it was 2 sizes bigger than the biggest option they came with

Its usually from the standard size for that model deriative, not the extra big 18" wheels they put on to sell a few more at the end of the financial year kind of thing.

From the QLD Transport website

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso..._vehicles2.pdf
"The rim diameter may be varied from the standard size but the overall diameter of the tyre must not vary by more than +15mm or -26mm"

[XC-351]

you can get an xr6 for 12k if you look around, and if thats what you really what stick to your guns i can assure you you will be unhappy if you dont get what you want first...

i recently seen a ba xr6 turbo in white with 100 000km sell for 12k, looked good too

keep looking eventualy you will find what you want

[DJM83]

You want a VY commodore over an AU XR6 that would fit in the same price range. I know what id chose and yes i hated AU's before i drove one

[f6.au]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

Indeed. What is it with P-platers and wanting 20" wheels that make the car drive like a bucket of crap?

because its MY car, and i can make it look like how I want
im not putting rims on for you, im putting them on for me.... personal satatifaction.. and please like you didnt go through the same phase i did when you were my age.... :


if i get a cheap xr6 ba , hell i will be cheering... i6 goes harder, and the transmission/gearbox isnt as disgusting as the commodores.....


thanks to everyone for the helpful comments, very much appreciated. Im going to the auctions soon see if i can pickup up a bargain xr6... man i cant wait to ge on my fulls, xr6 turbo here i come....

[Antwon]

With the 2" rule, im pretty sure you can get what ever size you want, as long as its really low profile so the diameter of the tyre and rim is the same as stock. Please no one flame me for that its just what i heard around and seems to make sense.

[bok1]

the ve clubsport has 19inch rims.

[jambo_xr6]

Originally Posted by BFXRScott

I thought it was 2 sizes bigger than the biggest option they came with

I think this is right, not sure what the biggest option on XT was (maybe 17) but at least it was 18 for an xr6 so you should be able to do 20s without getting hassled.

Just again have to reiterate that it's all for show you're going to utterly ruin the ride and handling, and the older folks might have a giggle at you, but if that's what you want then go for it Wheel and tyre packages are certainly a lot cheaper these days. I went through a stupid car audio phase where everyone thought i was silly so I know how exciting certain mods can be when you're younger and glad i got it out of the system

The commodores on offer around this era are all complete rubbish, the 6 cyl and trannys are barely even ordinary, and the interiors are straight out of the 80s. I get more satisfaction driving my non turbo BA XR6 runabout then a VX-VY LS1 commodore because it's actually put together properly, everything is engineered to work together properly (ie. not a parts bin special), and actually a relatively classy car for the money you can pick them up for these days

Good luck and go for the Ford 6, I'm not a strict Ford man, it is just a better car full stop

[Bad Bird]

Originally Posted by f6.au

because its MY car, and i can make it look like how I want
im not putting rims on for you, im putting them on for me.... personal satatifaction.. and please like you didnt go through the same phase i did when you were my age....

I never said that you couldn't do it, I just said that you shouldn't.

I'm not much older than you, and no I never went through that stage. As a student of engineering and science I absolutely cringe at the thought of what cheap, heavy 20" wheels do to the loads on the suspension.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by f6.au

thanks to everyone for the helpful comments, very much appreciated. Im going to the auctions soon see if i can pickup up a bargain xr6... man i cant wait to ge on my fulls, xr6 turbo here i come....

Just a suggestion, since you are keen for an xr6t...why not just buy something cheaper, save your pennies and get a wild xr6t when you get onto your opens


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[Iggypoppin']

or purchase my BA XR6. black, premium sound, eleanors(like you said you liked further up) and all for the measly sum of 11,500. in all seriousness, you should really just buy a cheap(3-5k) car for your first car. just third party insure it and stick it till you have the $$ for a turbo. by then the 6spd auto turbo xr6's will be affordable for you and you wont have a dilemma about what to buy as a fill in car.

[f6.au]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

I never said that you couldn't do it, I just said that you shouldn't.

I'm not much older than you, and no I never went through that stage. As a student of engineering and science I absolutely cringe at the thought of what cheap, heavy 20" wheels do to the loads on the suspension.

Im a 2nd year structural draftsperson i also have a rough idea, but it honestly doesnt bother me.. I have seen plenty of cars with 20's on for years and there still fine....

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Just a suggestion, since you are keen for an xr6t...why not just buy something cheaper, save your pennies and get a wild xr6t when you get onto your opens


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3 years, thats a long time....My dad owns a mind Ford fairlane ZL 1986 with only 160ks in mint condition.... he wants to put a v8 in it, 351 or something.... i told him im getting a xr6 turbo LOL.... mate, as soon as i get my fulls, im going to have one physco xr6 turbo..... no one understands the passion i have for our aussie built turbo falcons.....

Originally Posted by NJXR6

or purchase my BA XR6. black, premium sound, eleanors(like you said you liked further up) and all for the measly sum of 11,500. in all seriousness, you should really just buy a cheap(3-5k) car for your first car. just third party insure it and stick it till you have the $$ for a turbo. by then the 6spd auto turbo xr6's will be affordable for you and you wont have a dilemma about what to buy as a fill in car.

are you really selling it ? yeah thats true, its def an option.... Not to keen on it though....