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Old 11-01-2010, 05:13 PM   #1
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Channel 9 news reports that NSW police are using dummies to try to get motorists to slow down aparently a full stickered HWP car is left parked with a coat and cap placed around the seat to look like an officer is inside there are 5 of these cars accross the state and are parked on main highways...... :
Thats got to be a Gee up they cant be serious............these cars cant book you or give chase as the dummies are unlicensed.

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All this is starting to get out of control ..... just shows the lack of man power available for one.



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Didn't they do this in super troopers to go fishing?
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Channel 9 news reports that NSW police are using dummies to try to get motorists to slow down aparently a full stickered HWP car is left parked with a coat and cap placed around the seat to look like an officer is inside there are 5 of these cars accross the state and are parked on main highways...... :
Thats got to be a Gee up they cant be serious............these cars cant book you or give chase as the dummies are unlicensed.
They should be doing this more then the whole speed camera thing imo
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Heard that they have cardboard cut out police cars overseas as well on highways with the occasional real police car further up.

Would be a few "phews" when people realise they aren't real.
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According to 9 the cars are at the end of their life this is their last duty before being decomissioned. Aparently 1 has been in the same spot on the Hume for a few days wont be long before some bogan has a BBQ with it.
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They could probably buy 2 stickered up bog standard XT's for the price of a HWY Patrol car. What would be wrong with employing civilians to drive them around and park them in high risk areas.
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I think they're a great idea. Think about it, what makes you slow down more, a marked car or a hidden camera?
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Didn't they do this in super troopers to go fishing?
ha ha classic movie, and yes they went fishing.
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Why does the scene from the movie Flying High - ie inflatiion of auto pilot scene - come springing to mind.
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This was trialled by NZ Police a few years back.

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I think they're a great idea. Think about it, what makes you slow down more, a marked car or a hidden camera?
agreed, its not about the revenue its about getting motorists to realize the speed isn't it, so if they make people slow down and behave correctly in the vicinity of the camera then its doing the job, not just taking peoples money like always
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^^^^^be very very quiet, - don't give the powers something else to consider, jeez card board cut outs - what next, dummies in cars, oh weve already done that one
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This is a good idea, it actually slows people down, its about time they used a method that didn't raise there profits
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it can be a good think slowing ppl down as long as they dont panic brake.
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My only question is why should the presence of a marked police car be the only reason to follow the speed limit. It really annoys the hell out of me when a camera's coming up everyone slams on the brakes even though they're going slower than the speed limit.
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I think it might be serving a message to the goverment about policing number's, personally.
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police are using dummies to try to get motorists to slow down aparently a full stickered HWP car is left parked with a coat and cap placed around the seat to look like an officer is inside .
Our tax dollars hard at work again. Amazing. What money wasting ideas are our politicians going to think of next?
What amazes me more is that they all most likely had countless meetings at the tax payers expense and the outcome was "lets purchase a couple of cars. Sticker them up and park them on the side of the road to deter people from speeding for a few hundred metres."
Maybe I'm not viewing it as others are but wouldn't it be better to spend it on educating their future tax payers? Get programs started in our schools at a young age say year 7 and carry it through to the final years. Educate and shock people. Maybe even encourage students to join motoring groups and track days at the local go kart track to start with, this way they can all learn to steer, brake and get some driver judgement skills. Even make it an assessment critria that all need to to pass to allow them to apply for a their learners permit.
Surely, if they were serious about saving lives etc, they could dip into the millions they make from speed cameras, rego etc put a package together to introduce into our schools?
The only good that I can see from what they have come up with through such an idea is when they need to replace the cars, there shall be a number of low k HWP cars going cheaply to the public at governemnt auctions.

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According to 9 the cars are at the end of their life this is their last duty before being decomissioned. Aparently 1 has been in the same spot on the Hume for a few days wont be long before some bogan has a BBQ with it.

yep, saw that one myself
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This is a good idea, it actually slows people down, its about time they used a method that didn't raise there profits
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Saw that car yesterday. Car was in full view and didn't appear to be hiding as they normally do. Just outside of Goulburn not far from the turn off to Canberra.
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I think they're a great idea. Think about it, what makes you slow down more, a marked car or a hidden camera?
For the 13 seconds it takes on my routinely hourly trips to pass the marked car equipped with optional dummy, I guess the marked car. What about the other 59 minutes and 47 seconds of my trip?

Here's an idea - put more actual police on the roads.
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What amazes me more is that they all most likely had countless meetings at the tax payers expense and the outcome was "lets purchase a couple of cars. Sticker them up and park them on the side of the road to deter people from speeding for a few hundred metres."
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If you read the report they are old patrol cars at the end of their life waiting to go to the auctions, not new cars.
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For the 13 seconds it takes on my routinely hourly trips to pass the marked car equipped with optional dummy, I guess the marked car. What about the other 59 minutes and 47 seconds of my trip?

Here's an idea - put more actual police on the roads.

yeah fair enough but one day one wont be a dummy car and your gona get pinged.
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For the 13 seconds it takes on my routinely hourly trips to pass the marked car equipped with optional dummy, I guess the marked car. What about the other 59 minutes and 47 seconds of my trip?

Here's an idea - put more actual police on the roads.
Thats just silly, police 24/7 on all roads because you MIGHT speed during the other 59 minutes?

People will only react that way if they think its a FAKE, not many will catch-on.
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Thats just silly, police 24/7 on all roads because you MIGHT speed during the other 59 minutes?

People will only react that way if they think its a FAKE, not many will catch-on.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not...?

On second thought, perhaps not - so I'll answer what I think you mean. 5 cars with dummies in them will do jack squat. A higher visible police presence on the roads is what's needed. Police doing actual policing. The high probability of seeing a patrol or two anywhere during your journey will do a lot more to temper and catch moronic behavior.

What impact will 5 marked cars armed with dummies throughout the state of NSW have?

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I think they're a great idea. Think about it, what makes you slow down more, a marked car or a hidden camera?
Exactly, spot on.
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yep, saw that one myself
Was it near the goulburn exit? Seen a HP on the side of the road but didnt see properly
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If you read the report they are old patrol cars at the end of their life waiting to go to the auctions, not new cars.
Missed that bit. Maybe I should get a career in politics.
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If you read the report they are old patrol cars at the end of their life waiting to go to the auctions, not new cars.
It's still depreciating captial no matter what stage of life the car is in.
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