|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
27-11-2013, 01:34 PM | #1 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
From Drive Today:
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...127-2y8zh.html Ford’s diminutive EcoSport SUV will be priced from a benchmark-setting $20,790 plus on-road and dealer costs when it goes on sale in Australia from December 2013. The first vehicle to be sold locally with Ford’s efficient 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbocharged EcoBoost engine, the EcoSport undercuts its key rivals the Holden Trax, Nissan Juke and Peugeot 2008 on price, but there's a caveat - the budget-friendly models don't get the high-tech powerplant, and they won't be on sale here until the new year. The only cheaper SUV available on the Australian market is the Chinese-made Chery J11 (from $16,990 drive-away) which has struggled for acceptance, while Fiat's boxy-bodied Panda - which starts at $16,500 drive-away - is better considered a city crossover than an SUV. The EcoSport - like most of its baby SUV rivals - drives only the front wheels, and is available in three trim levels. Advertisement The first variant to be offered in Australia is the range-topping Titanium, which will be available from December 1. That model is priced from $25,790 plus on-roads, and is offered with the choice of five-speed manual (with the new 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbo) or an optional 1.5-litre engine with a six-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission ($2000). The Titanium comes with leather seats, 16-inch alloys, climate control, reverse parking sensors and a push-button start. From February 2014 Ford dealerships will begin taking stock of the entry level Ambiente and mid-range Trend models, which start at $20,790 and $22,290 respectively. The base model Ambiente misses out on the star 1.0-litre engine and makes do with a 1.5-litre four-cylinder for both the manual and automatic models. It has smaller 15-inch wheels and misses out on leather seats, keyless entry, cruise control, driver’s seat lumbar support, glovebox cooler and front fog lamps. The award-winning 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbocharged EcoBoost engine can be had from the mid-range model up. It produces 92kW of power at 6000rpm and 170Nm of torque as low as 1400rpm. Ford says the compact configuration rivals the power output of a regular 1.6-litre four-cylinder petrol engine. The downside is that the three-pot is only available in a five-speed manual - no automatic is available with that engine yet. The 1.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine produces 82kW of power and 140Nm of torque, and is available in the entry-level Ambiente with a five-speed manual gearbox, and throughout the rest of the range with a six-speed dual-clutch automatic. Both engines boast respectable fuel economy, with the EcoSport returning an admirable figure of 5.7L/100km, while the 1.5-litre boasts a 6.5L/100km combined reading. Both engines are compatible with 91-octane unleaded, but Ford is recommending premium unleaded for the best economy. The EcoSport shares the same platform as the Fiesta city car and is manufactured in India. But Ford engineers have made changes to the dimensions of the vehicle, along with altered suspension (spring and damper rates) for a more suited steering, handling and ride package. The EcoSport range tips the scales at under 1300kg and is endowed with a user-friendly 10.6-metre turning radius. The EcoSport offers a 200mm ground clearance, water-wading capability of up to 550mm and short front and rear overhangs for practical approach and departure access. Inside, the EcoSport features a 346-litre boot, 60:40 split-fold rear seating and a maximum cargo space of 705 litres. There are 20 storage places and cubby holes according to Ford, including a glovebox in Trend and Titanium models that can keep up to six beverage cans cool. The Ford EcoSport offers seven airbags – driver and front passenger, drivers knee airbag, side airbags and curtain airbags – as well as the latest suite of driver functions including stability control and hill start assist (on automatic variants). Ford’s voice-activated Sync system is standard across the range. However, Ford continues to buck the trend of offering reversing cameras in its taller, harder to see out of SUVs. The EcoSport model has no reversing camera available on any model, while its bigger brother, the Kuga, only has a rear-view cam on the top-end Titanium model. Ford EcoSport pricing (all prices plus on-road costs): Ford EcoSport Ambiente 1.5-litre five-speed manual - $20,790 Ford EcoSport Ambiente 1.5-litre six-speed dual-clutch automatic - $22,790 Ford EcoSport Trend 1.0-litre five-speed manual - $22,290 Ford EcoSport Trend 1.5-litre six-speed dual-clutch automatic - $24,290 Ford EcoSport Titanium 1.0-litre five-speed manual - $25,790 Ford EcoSport Titanium 1.5-litre six-speed dual-clutch automatic - $27,790 My Comments: Not sure why they aren't offering an automatic transmission on the 1.0 EcoBoost, seems like they missed a trick.
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
||
27-11-2013, 02:44 PM | #2 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 691
|
The New fiesta is available with a 1.0 litre 6 speed pwrshift in the sport model so it's not as if they
|
||
27-11-2013, 03:05 PM | #3 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,318
|
kypez..My Comments: Not sure why they aren't offering an automatic transmission on the 1.0 EcoBoost, seems like they missed a trick. ..some people want an automatic...Autos sell!!! another missed opportunity!!! Juke did the same ,no auto on STL..only on ST and STTi..
Ecosport pricing is competitive..good to see..
__________________
CSGhia |
||
27-11-2013, 03:07 PM | #4 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
That's my point! I cant understand why they haven't offered it on the 1.0 EcoBoost motor. Its only on the 1.5L engine.
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
||
27-11-2013, 03:15 PM | #5 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Ford Europe hasn't developed a version of 1.0 EB with Powershift transmission - it's a FoE design idiosyncrasy...
Even the Americans are struggling to get Fiesta 1.0 EB with a powershift option even though they know that's the market. |
||
27-11-2013, 03:21 PM | #6 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,318
|
Quote:
Ford has just announced two things today. No.1 is a bit of boasting, saying that they have the best selling small car in Europe, as the Fiesta sold 22,561 in September and 222,184 for the first nine months of the year. But we already knew the Fiesta was a best-seller, so instead, the announcement that his car will finally get a new auto box caught our attention. A PowerShift auto is available on the supermini, but only with a 100 PS version of the 1.0-liter EcoBoost engine. The PowerShift unit is a six-speed dual-clutch unit, which to our knowledge was developed by Getrag and is the same as the one Renault is adopting. Together, the three-cylinder award-winning engine and the new gearbox deliver CO2 emissions of 114g/km and 57.7mpg fuel consumption. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fo...ope-70599.html
__________________
CSGhia |
|||
27-11-2013, 03:29 PM | #7 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
The Fiesta is available with the Power Shift box with 1.0 EB engine...
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
||
27-11-2013, 03:32 PM | #8 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
Quote:
http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-fies...ions/spec-data
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
|||
27-11-2013, 04:04 PM | #9 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 691
|
In Janurary 2014, Ford aust will have 1.0EB with 6 speed pwrshift.
|
||
27-11-2013, 04:40 PM | #10 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 513
|
A face only a mother could love
http://theage.drive.com.au/photogall...electedImage=5 |
||
This user likes this post: |
27-11-2013, 04:43 PM | #11 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
|
Quote:
|
|||
27-11-2013, 06:43 PM | #13 | ||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
What about it, got a match and a can of petrol?
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
||
This user likes this post: |
27-11-2013, 06:47 PM | #14 | ||
Barra Turbo > V8
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 26,196
|
Not a real big fan of the looks, but they are subjective and i could learn to like it.
But that 1L EcoBoost seems to be a ripper engine for the purpose. That said id be happy with a Titanium as a run around.
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6 -2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line |
||
27-11-2013, 07:54 PM | #15 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: QLD
Posts: 246
|
Quote:
and I personally am looking forward to taking one for a test drive as I think this car will suit my needs for work PERFECTLY and would sit nicely next to the ST. |
|||
27-11-2013, 08:52 PM | #16 | ||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,826
|
Looks like a dwarf with braces.
|
||
27-11-2013, 09:30 PM | #17 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
|
Quote:
The front end is plainly ridiculous - wrong on so many levels and a downright disgrace to the good looking Territory that it came from. The rear end, like the Kuga, looks like its been involved in a collision with a b-double, and that spare wheel carrier looks like it came off a 1985 Landcruiser. The 1.0 ecoboost might work well in something the size of a Suzuki Alto, but in the Ecosport it will be hauling ~1300kg around, so I can imagine what a strained and gutless wonder it will be. And don't get me started on the interior. The dashboard looks like a monstrosity of melted plastic without any style or substance. Simply puke worthy. And ugly soulless appliances like this are future of motoring in this country? I'd rather catch the train to work. |
|||
27-11-2013, 09:54 PM | #18 | ||
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
|
Hope you enjoy trains ..... toot toot.
Don't mind it and for the price it really should sell. Those buying a Fiesta could be swayed because of the higher stance and the engine line up, especially the 1.5 is supposed to be a great little power plant (for what it is) Looks are subjective of course. You will get those who dont like it ..... and some who wont because it isnt Australian made and will just bag anything out no matter what it is or how good it might be just because of their own personal weird bias. (Even to the point of bagging out people for liking it because of a bias towards Fords ..... strange!) Good luck to it Time will tell and the price is spot on.
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph '11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph '95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph 101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong! Clevo Mafia [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
||
27-11-2013, 09:55 PM | #19 | ||
Now Fordless
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fremantle, WA
Posts: 3,611
|
Its power and weight isn't much different from most small cars getting around today. It should keep up with traffic easily.
|
||
27-11-2013, 10:01 PM | #20 | |||
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
|
Quote:
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph '11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph '95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph 101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong! Clevo Mafia [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
|||
27-11-2013, 10:04 PM | #21 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
The EB engine is the most powerful motor in the EcoSport. It has more power and torque than the 1.5L so please tell me how this engine is going to struggle again?
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
||
27-11-2013, 10:19 PM | #22 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
|
Quote:
If that is the most powerful engine in the range then I dread to think what the other versions will be like. |
|||
27-11-2013, 10:23 PM | #23 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,416
|
Quote:
I think you'll be surprised. It produces 170 Nm at 1400 rpm!! That's barely over idle! I really don't see this engine struggling at all... Not having a go at you, but this campaign was designed for this thinking... http://www.ford.com.au/ecoboost?searchid=%20ac01_FoA
__________________
My Ford Family... 2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes 2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue |
|||
27-11-2013, 11:00 PM | #24 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 9,058
|
Quote:
Dualis is heavier and is slightly more powerful Kia Soul is similar weight but less torqey A-Class A180 is heavier and similar power Golf 90Tsi is a little lighter with similar power Rav4 is much heavier but slightly more powerful Also doesnt the 1L Ecoboost have upto 200nm in overboost mode?
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170 2004 BA wagon RTV project. 1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red 1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired 1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
27-11-2013, 11:02 PM | #25 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,035
|
So what is the new definition of SUV?
Anything that costs more than it should? |
||
27-11-2013, 11:06 PM | #26 | |||
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
|
Quote:
Great for viewing over normal cars but there will be a point when there are so many SUV's that they need to go higher to see over the top of all the SUV'S!!
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph '11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph '95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph 101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong! Clevo Mafia [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
|||
This user likes this post: |
27-11-2013, 11:08 PM | #27 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
|
Quote:
|
|||
27-11-2013, 11:11 PM | #28 | ||
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
|
....... we know!
__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph '11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph '95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph 101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong! Clevo Mafia [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
||
This user likes this post: |
27-11-2013, 11:18 PM | #29 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
|
|
||
28-11-2013, 03:41 AM | #30 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
|
Really?.......if you don't like it don't look at it...or buy it
Looks are subjective....I think it looks great......so does that mean you n me cancel each other out. That engine hasn't won multiple world engine awards for nothing......I wouldn't be surprised if it was best in class. And GREAT ford pricing...ussually ford like to take advantage of their superior products with pricing......looks like this time their happy for some more volume. Maybe that's a hint there's a plan to ship as many as we need here for a change |
||