holden vc vs ford xd

xdgl302 · 07-05-2015, 09:15 PM

hi everyone does anyone know how much hp the holden vc commodore race cars had. i found out the xd falcons had about 410hp but cant find any info on the vb-vc anywhere

burnz · 07-05-2015, 09:23 PM

XD were rated at 200bhp
VC at 170bhp

in race trim GP3 VC was around 380bhp

zipping · 07-05-2015, 09:24 PM

400BHP @ 6500 rpm for brocks 81 VC. Think you will find the XD had 15-20 more but its all speculative.

xdgl302 · 07-05-2015, 09:30 PM

not really much more hey when iv seen old footage of them down conrod straght the xd is alot faster must have been down to the extra torque from the 5.8l

zipping · 07-05-2015, 09:39 PM

Maybe you should read this if referring to TruBlu.

http://www.shannons.com.au/club/news...l-racing-hero/

Not the best article but yeh DJR took advantage of as error in the homologated weight for the XD

xdgl302 · 07-05-2015, 09:49 PM

i was referring to tru-blu not a bad read but it now starts a new question what did CAMS mess up with the min weight with the xd i know ford pulled out of racing due to a argument with CAMS so this must be what it was over

xdgl302 · 07-05-2015, 09:50 PM

they must had homologated the weight lighter then it was

vbvbvb088 · 07-05-2015, 10:17 PM

I remember the Commodore's had all the air-con goodies strapped in the boot? (VC SL/e)?

XR6WGN · 07-05-2015, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xdgl302

they must had homologated the weight lighter then it was

Story goes that CAMS accidently homologated the weight of the 6 cylinder XD and not the V8. Tru Blu was built to those specs and it was discovered when someone took the car to be weighed with almost no fuel in it - Dick had always made sure that there was a min amount of fuel in the tank to "protect" the car's actual weight. But when the car was almost empty that's when it was noticed that it was lighter than other XD racers of the period.

He wasn't cheating or anything like that, it was just that he was able to get the car down to that homologated weight so it had an obvious advantage if anyone had bothered to investigate.

grey_esp · 08-05-2015, 10:17 AM

I saw a vid once of DJ explaining greenstuff and he said that every thought he had over 400HP but it was just the cars were so light.

Kieron · 08-05-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6WGN

Story goes that CAMS accidently homologated the weight of the 6 cylinder XD and not the V8. Tru Blu was built to those specs and it was discovered when someone took the car to be weighed with almost no fuel in it - Dick had always made sure that there was a min amount of fuel in the tank to "protect" the car's actual weight. But when the car was almost empty that's when it was noticed that it was lighter than other XD racers of the period.

He wasn't cheating or anything like that, it was just that he was able to get the car down to that homologated weight so it had an obvious advantage if anyone had bothered to investigate.

I think the story was Murray Carter/Gary Willmington actually homologated the XD using 6 potter weights. CAMS I think were fairly keen to have the XD race so probably not to worried about the finer details ;)

XR6WGN · 08-05-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kieron

I think the story was Murray Carter/Gary Willmington actually homologated the XD using 6 potter weights. CAMS I think were fairly keen to have the XD race so probably not to worried about the finer details ;)

Kieron, you are quite correct: Out of Dick's biography

"When CAMS asked him (Murray Carter) to help, he happily obliged. He told them the weight of the new Falcon was 1265kg - what he didn't mention was that this was based on the weight of the ute! What a legend"

Go to read more of this book hehe