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Now that Ford has earmarked the demise of the Falcon toward the end of next year, they are relying on the Mondeo to fill that market segment. The Mondeo wagon has already replaced the Falcon wagon for some years now.
So wouldn't you think that Ford would be making sure the new Mondeo is of the highest standard, improving on the previous model, to gain as much of that market as possible? http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-revi...4#.VXpJhfmqqko Quote:
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12-06-2015, 04:40 PM | #2 | ||
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As if journalist would know anything about car assembly or panel aligment :-) he has just heard those words mentioned somewhere ...
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Well, I thought that too, but viewing the photo there are huge gaps there, and there are other shortcomings as well.
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Not hard to identify poor alignment really, visually or even with a ruler.
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Might be a preproduction car ? It is very rare that I read about bad panel fit in car reviews so it is a highly unusual situation . One would think that manufacturer would send a top example of the car for review (some even claim that some manufacturers even have special "press" tune for best performance) .
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12-06-2015, 05:01 PM | #6 | ||
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It has the same engine as my Focus so I'm wondering what they're doing to get 132KW/400NM from it from the dealership floor (29KW/80NM up on my Focus).
I wouldn't mind taking a peek under the bonnet to see if anything is different vs mine as they're literally the same engine. |
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"Next-generation combustion system design with a lower compression ratio, increased combustion chamber diameter and reduced swirl New higher-pressure common-rail fuel injection systems with advanced multi-hole injectors Smaller, low-inertia variable-geometry turbochargers" Having owned both 100 and 120kW versions, the 120 is more responsive with less lag and makes its maximum torque sooner. I would image the new one has a similar amount of updates.
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Quality journalism there - the exterior photos are all of Titaniums... At least they got the interior right...
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Ive seen equally bad alignment on dozens of Camry/Aurion boot lids, yet never seen a reviewer mention it. A few were so bad you could fit your fingers in the gap on one side.
Also the same goes for Cruzes and Elantras.
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Article written by Paul Gover, a man that has a personal vendetta against Ford, has strong links to Holden and also has a former link to Hyundai.
Whilst the test car may have been a bit off, I never take much of what they guy writes very seriously. Constantly biased and frequently contradictory, PG seems to think he gods gift to automotive journalism. Sad thing is, a scathing review like this will scare many potential buyers.
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Has engine stop start !! FAIL...I hate stop start even if it can be switched off...
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This is a UK report on the new Mondeo..opposite to Paul's report..
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/mondeo
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That car should have been gone over with a fine tooth comb prior to hand over... imagine turning up to a first date with ripped clothes, messy hair and a durry hanging out of your mouth...
Suspension and dash issues I can excuse, but poor panel alignment is a blaring oversight that should never have happened.
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They should take it back to ford for warranty repair, they'll probably get " Nahh, mayte, they all do that!"
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Well that solves it then. Ford please disregard.
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I think they made a bad call setting up production in Spain. They should have stuck to Belgium or set up a factory in Czech Republic or Slovakia, maybe even Germany. Some European countries build cars much better than others. Perhaps Spain is better than Thailand though? It's no coincidence that VAG is having SEAT's new SUV built by Skoda in Czech Republic!
Basically an excellent car I think, but, as with VAG group cars, I'd be very reticent about that powershift transmission. No amount of fuel saving is worth a transmission that's like a dog, not to mention a record of unreliability. These companies are shooting themselves in the foot with those dual clutch transmissions.
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I'm confused:
http://www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2...5-review-50428 Is the powershift only with the diesel then?
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It only shows the lack of passion the Ford employees and senior managers at Ford Aust have in ensuring their new model vehicle is fit for media road testing. Ford is languishing down near the bottom of the top ten manufacturers here (IIRC). This report will only worsen the situation. And I agree about manufacturing in Spain should not have occurred, from personal experiences with the quality of manufacturing in that country. |
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My Navara 550 was made in Spain and i can't see much of an issue with build quality . This is the time of multinationals and cars are made all over the place , Audi TT and A3 sedan from Hungary , Audi Q3 from Spain , Polo form South Africa and Polo Gti from Spain , pug RCZ from Austria ,Megane from Turkey ,X5 from USA etc.. Engines ,transmissions ,even glass or fasteners are also delivered from worldwide to be installed in the country of assembly. Last edited by SumoDog68; 13-06-2015 at 02:20 PM. |
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I read that report as well and can only conclude that some person at Ford well and truly need their bum kicked for allowing a vehicle to go out in that condition.
For all we know a previous driver may have abused the Mondeo and not said anything. In any event it should've been inspected, driven and cleaned prior to hand over. I can't recall a more scathing report of a vehicle. Ever. As far as the comments re being made in Spain I have to respectfully disagree. The panel fit in my 2014 Kuga is spot on as well as the upholstery (no loose threads etc). Notwithstanding this I accept that a poorly finished vehicle may make it through occasionally. Unless mine is at the other end of the spectrum! |
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I think there are two factors interplaying with each other. One is the global management by the multinational manufacturer who obviously tries to achieve consistent high quality across all of its plants. The other is the "culture", work ethic, skills base etc of the country in which the plant is located. Manufacturers have to work harder to lift the game in some countries than others, but they persevere because of factors like labour costs and other incentives that encouraged them to set up there. Spain is not bad. It's not the worst but its not the best either.
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Considering the journo, I reckon there's more chance he's lieing, fudging things and dogging the review then ford delivering a dog of a car to be reviewed. I for one can't believe it.....and don't. All other reports have this car an exceptional ride.
Yep...just went and checked about 8-9 other reviews and the only common negatives were the interior cabin plastics not on par with class best. No proper speedo Steering feels too light. All far outweighed by the possatives with class leading tech, comfort, space n room and drivability. Not one scathing review and saw zero mention of build quality. Actually....I'd be surprised if this gover muppet hasn't driven this car at the various media releases allready so.....grain of salt....moving on. Last edited by 1TUFFUTE; 13-06-2015 at 04:31 PM. |
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Maybe it had been in a prang
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