Sales figures - April 2020

[Wretched]

Have heard it was a shocker - estimated 40% drop in sales compared to 2019.

Ford and Hyundai sold just over 2000 units with most others under the 2000.
VW sold 1300 units.

[Poetic Justice]

Yep to be expected.

Us, like many though, have experienced a bit of an increase in enquiry traffic in the past week.

[Bossxr8]

Yeah 40-50% drop is what they are expecting. But as above, has been improving over the last week or so.

[csv8]

No one working no one has money to buy cars.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by csv8

No one working no one has money to buy cars.

Bit of an exaggeration. Most of the population is still working, but people aren't willing to spend money in hard times, business's are loath to spend money, and people are avoiding going out in public. Not to mention some cars aren't going to make it here anytime soon, cause most of the manufacturing plants are closed.

[Syndrome]

Same everywhere:

https://www.edmunds.com/industry/pre...forecasts.html

[Sprintey]

Forget spending on a car, we haven't even gone through a full tank of fuel since this started! Fuel at cheap prices and you can't drive anywhere to use it...

[jpd80]

Dowling reports that a fair amount of the sales drop has to do with finance rejections.
Dealers are reporting that more loan applications are being rejected than accepted and
that's unprecedented.

Finance companies are asking applicants to lodge letters explaining why their jobs are
essential under current conditions, pilots are getting knocked back and lots of others
who would have been walk up starts to finance are now falling over.

The CEO of the Australian Automotive Dealers Association has said that one of the major
reasons for reduction in new vehicle sales over the past few years is risk aversion by
finance companies.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Dowling reports that a fair amount of the sales drop has to do with finance rejections.
Dealers are reporting that more loan applications are being rejected than accepted and
that's unprecedented.

Finance companies are asking applicants to lodge letters explaining why their jobs are
essential under current conditions, pilots are getting knocked back and lots of others
who would have been walk up starts to finance are now falling over.

The CEO of the Australian Automotive Dealers Association has said that one of the major
reasons for reduction in new vehicle sales over the past few years is risk aversion by
finance companies.

I really don't think this is as big a player as the news wants it to be. Yes, there have been some more finance rejections but this is mainly due to finding out the security of peoples incomes and banks being slow to acknowledge JobKeeper as solid income.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

I really don't think this is as big a player as the news wants it to be. Yes, there have been some more finance rejections but this is mainly due to finding out the security of peoples incomes and banks being slow to acknowledge JobKeeper as solid income.

But now the head of the dealer association is saying that the decline in sales over the past
few years has been due to tightening of finance, even more so in the past few months.

What we see from outside may well be skewed by our own misperceptions, I choose
to believe the overview of the dealer association that financing new vehicles has been
getting harder over the past few years, regardless of the past few months and cv-19,
that's been the brutal icing on the cake.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by jpd80

But now the head of the dealer association is saying that the decline in sales over the past
few years has been due to tightening of finance, even more so in the past few months.

What we see from outside may well be skewed by our own misperceptions, I choose
to believe the overview of the dealer association that financing new vehicles has been
getting harder over the past few years, regardless of the past few months and cv-19,
that's been the brutal icing on the cake.

Yeah I'm not saying that finance has been a contributor to declining sales (I run a car dealership) I was merely suggesting we shouldn't really factor too much of the finance component to a terrible April result - the coronavirus has this title well in the bag.

Having said that, yes, at present it is harder to get finance because banks want to know your income is rock solid.

After the commission in to financing it has definitely become harder - plenty more hoops to jump through to get approved - specifically where people are financing purchases at a level that they probably can't afford - so all this has done is reduce the number of people doing 'irresponsible' things.. so, in effect, sales numbers were a false sense of security so to speak...

[Rob 351]

Amazing result for Toyota.
One in four units sold in April was a Toyota.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...qizFs94zDXfOIs

[XR Martin]

Be even worse if 30000 odd cars weren't written off in canberra back in January. Insurance is still going through the claims.

[BENT_8]

Far out, Toyota sold more Hilux's than Ford did its entire fleet.

[Windsor220]

Probably because Toyota does a lot of fleet and isn't impacted as much by private buyers.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Probably because Toyota does a lot of fleet and isn't impacted as much by private buyers.

Bingo!

[Yellow_Festiva]

What has supply been like?

What's the time frame between a car leaving a foreign port and arriving on a local lot? 6-8 weeks?

By now I assume any manufacturing hold ups should have hit us locally?

Catch 22 - no one is spending so provide discounts, possibly no stock for months once local cars are sold.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Probably because Toyota does a lot of fleet and isn't impacted as much by private buyers.

That plus the generous instant tax write offs granted to business buyers at the moment.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

What has supply been like?

What's the time frame between a car leaving a foreign port and arriving on a local lot? 6-8 weeks?

By now I assume any manufacturing hold ups should have hit us locally?

Catch 22 - no one is spending so provide discounts, possibly no stock for months once local cars are sold.

Apparently the Thai factories producing our utes have been closed since late March and not expected to start production yet, but they're saying we have enough to keep up with demand at this stage.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...xports-124068/

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Far out, Toyota sold more Hilux's than Ford did its entire fleet.

True but Toyota sells a lot of base models, including a lot of workmate spec Hilux’s.
In a normal month Ford sells more 4x4 dual cabs than Toyota does. Those are the profit makers, especially compared to a base model.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

True but Toyota sells a lot of base models, including a lot of workmate spec Hilux’s.
In a normal month Ford sells more 4x4 dual cabs than Toyota does. Those are the profit makers, especially compared to a base model.

No doubt, but then Toyota also sell lots of other SUV/4x4 models which more than makes up for the deficit in 4x4 ute's.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

No doubt, but then Toyota also sell lots of other SUV/4x4 models which more than makes up for the deficit in 4x4 ute's.

That's your quota for this thread in sticking up for every other brand except Ford. Any further posts will be deleted.

[EDManual]

https://www.caradvice.com.au/847974/...rds-were-kept/

VFACTS: April new-car sales down by 48.5 per cent, sharpest decline since records were kept

Top 10 car brands in April 2020

Toyota: 10,325, down 31.8 per cent
Mazda: 3022, down 60.5 per cent
Kia: 2492, down 44.9 per cent
Ford: 2251, down 53.1 per cent
Hyundai: 2247, down 65.3 per cent
Mitsubishi: 1734, down 63.2 per cent
BMW: 1703, down 5.7 per cent
Holden: 1501, down 56.9 per cent
Nissan: 1468, down 51.5 per cent
Volkswagen: 1328, down 62.1 per cent


Top 10 cars sold in April 2020

Toyota HiLux: 2339, down 35.4 per cent
Toyota RAV4: 1911, up 54.4 per cent
Ford Ranger: 1540, down 48.8 per cent
Toyota Corolla: 1195, down 50.8 per cent
Toyota Prado: 947, down 35.7 per cent
Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series: 924, down 21.5 per cent
Kia Cerato: 860, down 47.9 per cent
Holden Colorado: 854, down 31.7 per cent
Isuzu D-Max: 760, down 43.8 per cent
Hyundai i30: 695, down 63.6 per cent


Ford EcoSport – 2
Ford Endura – 49
Ford Escape – 65
Ford Everest – 178
Ford Fiesta – 3
Ford Focus – 112
Ford Mondeo – 5
Ford Mustang – 146
Ford Ranger 4X2 – 121
Ford Ranger 4X4 – 1419
Ford Transit Custom – 105
Ford Transit Heavy – 46
Ford total – 2251

ute based 4x4:
Ford Everest – 178
Holden Trailblazer – 99
Isuzu MU-X – 339
LDV D90 – 12
Mitsubishi Pajero Sport – 156
SsangYong Rexton – 9
Toyota Fortuner – 125

utes:
Ford Ranger 4X2 – 121
Great Wall Steed 4X2 – 43
Holden Colorado 4X2 – 74
Isuzu Ute D-Max 4X2 – 198
Mazda BT-50 4X2 – 147
Mercedes-Benz X-Class 4X2 – 0
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 – 114
Nissan Navara 4X2 – 84
Toyota Hilux 4X2 – 456
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 – 0


Ford Ranger 4X4 – 1419
Great Wall Steed 4X4 – 29
Holden Colorado 4X4 – 780
Isuzu Ute D-Max 4X4 – 562
LDV T60 4X4 – 115
Mazda BT-50 4X4 – 319
Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon CC – 4
Mercedes-Benz X-Class 4X4 – 319
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 – 355
Nissan Navara 4X4 – 435
RAM 1500 Express – 105
RAM 1500 Laramie – 73
RAM 2500/3500 Laramie – 0
Ssangyong Musso/Musso XLV 4X4 – 26
Toyota Hilux 4X4 – 1883
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC – 679
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 – 220

Holden:
Holden Acadia – 83
Holden Astra – 112
Holden Colorado 4X2 – 74
Holden Colorado 4X4 – 780
Holden Commodore – 30
Holden Equinox – 145
Holden Trailblazer – 99
Holden Trax – 178
Holden Total – 1501

[DFB FGXR6]

Ford Numbers -

Ford EcoSport – 2
Ford Endura – 49
Ford Escape – 65
Ford Everest – 178
Ford Fiesta – 3
Ford Focus – 112
Ford Mondeo – 5
Ford Mustang – 146
Ford Ranger 4X2 – 121
Ford Ranger 4X4 – 1419
Ford Transit Custom – 105
Ford Transit Heavy – 46
Ford total – 2251

[jpd80]

Wow, thanks for the figures guys

[au2000]

Originally Posted by EDManual

https://www.caradvice.com.au/847974/...rds-were-kept/

VFACTS: April new-car sales down by 48.5 per cent, sharpest decline since records were kept

Top 10 car brands in April 2020

Toyota: 10,325, down 31.8 per cent
Mazda: 3022, down 60.5 per cent
Kia: 2492, down 44.9 per cent
Ford: 2251, down 53.1 per cent
Hyundai: 2247, down 65.3 per cent
Mitsubishi: 1734, down 63.2 per cent
BMW: 1703, down 5.7 per cent
Holden: 1501, down 56.9 per cent
Nissan: 1468, down 51.5 per cent
Volkswagen: 1328, down 62.1 per cent


Top 10 cars sold in April 2020

Toyota HiLux: 2339, down 35.4 per cent
Toyota RAV4: 1911, up 54.4 per cent
Ford Ranger: 1540, down 48.8 per cent
Toyota Corolla: 1195, down 50.8 per cent
Toyota Prado: 947, down 35.7 per cent
Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series: 924, down 21.5 per cent
Kia Cerato: 860, down 47.9 per cent
Holden Colorado: 854, down 31.7 per cent
Isuzu D-Max: 760, down 43.8 per cent
Hyundai i30: 695, down 63.6 per cent


Ford EcoSport – 2
Ford Endura – 49
Ford Escape – 65
Ford Everest – 178
Ford Fiesta – 3
Ford Focus – 112
Ford Mondeo – 5
Ford Mustang – 146
Ford Ranger 4X2 – 121
Ford Ranger 4X4 – 1419
Ford Transit Custom – 105
Ford Transit Heavy – 46
Ford total – 2251

ute based 4x4:
Ford Everest – 178
Holden Trailblazer – 99
Isuzu MU-X – 339
LDV D90 – 12
Mitsubishi Pajero Sport – 156
SsangYong Rexton – 9
Toyota Fortuner – 125

utes:
Ford Ranger 4X2 – 121
Great Wall Steed 4X2 – 43
Holden Colorado 4X2 – 74
Isuzu Ute D-Max 4X2 – 198
Mazda BT-50 4X2 – 147
Mercedes-Benz X-Class 4X2 – 0
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 – 114
Nissan Navara 4X2 – 84
Toyota Hilux 4X2 – 456
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 – 0


Ford Ranger 4X4 – 1419
Great Wall Steed 4X4 – 29
Holden Colorado 4X4 – 780
Isuzu Ute D-Max 4X4 – 562
LDV T60 4X4 – 115
Mazda BT-50 4X4 – 319
Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon CC – 4
Mercedes-Benz X-Class 4X4 – 319
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 – 355
Nissan Navara 4X4 – 435
RAM 1500 Express – 105
RAM 1500 Laramie – 73
RAM 2500/3500 Laramie – 0
Ssangyong Musso/Musso XLV 4X4 – 26
Toyota Hilux 4X4 – 1883
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC – 679
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 – 220

Holden:
Holden Acadia – 83
Holden Astra – 112
Holden Colorado 4X2 – 74
Holden Colorado 4X4 – 780
Holden Commodore – 30
Holden Equinox – 145
Holden Trailblazer – 99
Holden Trax – 178
Holden Total – 1501

Do Holden even have any cars left ?

[kevino]

Originally Posted by au2000

Do Holden even have any cars left ?

It was about 3400 a few days ago according to one of the sites.

Some fresh stuff turned up at Holden dealers near me. Equinox.

[jpd80]

It’s hard looking at the carnage, retail sales took a huge bath
but fleet sales and people with cash and or secure jobs kept
sales prevented an even worse blood bath.

I guess those remaining sales are the quasi fleet holding
everything together, kinda gives us an idea of true retail
Proportions compared to non virus months....

Hopefully May is the last of the really brutal sales months.

[Bossxr8]

Government fleet sales were only down about 12%. It was the hire car market and private buyers where the carnage was.

Partly explains why Toyota did ok.

Not sure how things will look over the next couple of months in terms of supply. With overseas factories being closed for about 2 months, and still yet to re-open in some places, you would have to think the wait times to get certain models here will blow right out.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

That plus the generous instant tax write offs granted to business buyers at the moment.

Yep, our Hilux SR5 has just turned 4 years old. With the Tax write off we will be off to get another one before the EOFY. Will test drive a Ranger as well this time. Not overly impressed with the Auto in this model Hilux. That being it's only "fault" . But resale value is normally so good...........