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Old 26-01-2023, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Vacuum brake bleeder

Hello all.
Can I get some advice from the people in the know.
I bought a vacuum brake bleeder in the hope it would make it much easier to do.
I can not get it to work.
It holds vacuum and easily empties a container of brake fluid in no time.
Problem is it will not suck brake fluid from the bleed nipple, the most I can get out is a couple of drops.
What the hell am I doing wrong ?
Car is a FG mk11 6 cylinder ute.

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Old 26-01-2023, 07:35 PM   #2
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I'm wondering if the bleeder nipple might be blocked with crud Ford12?
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Old 26-01-2023, 07:47 PM   #3
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I'm wondering if the bleeder nipple might be blocked with crud Ford12?
Unfortunately not, brake fluid would flow when the brake peddle was pushed
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Old 26-01-2023, 08:39 PM   #4
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Sure you got enough pressure?
They generally need around 100psi.
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Old 26-01-2023, 10:24 PM   #5
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Is this one of those ones that connect to a air compressor?

I bought one too, it sucks balls and doesn't do squat. It sits in the corner gathering dust now.
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Old 27-01-2023, 08:05 AM   #6
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Hi. try doing it with the lid off the master cyl. Cheers MD
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Old 28-01-2023, 10:19 AM   #7
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I bought a reasonably cheap one from Sydney Tools and it works fine - WITHOUT the brake pedal being pushed

https://sydneytools.com.au/product/d...e-bleeding-kit
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Old 28-01-2023, 11:32 AM   #8
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I bought a reasonably cheap one from Sydney Tools and it works fine - WITHOUT the brake pedal being pushed

https://sydneytools.com.au/product/d...e-bleeding-kit
My one is very similar, looks the same.
I must be doing something wrong.
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Old 28-01-2023, 11:33 AM   #9
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Hi. try doing it with the lid off the master cyl. Cheers MD
Tried this
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Old 28-01-2023, 12:34 PM   #10
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My one is very similar, looks the same.
I must be doing something wrong.



Usually it sucks around the threads on the bleeder nipple, try only opening it 1/4 of a turn.


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Try gravity bleeding, open the nipple place a catch container under, make sure master cylinder is full and go and make a cup of coffee or tea. Check the master cylinder fluid level and top up once per wheel. Make a cup between each wheel and remember to go when needed.



Sure it's slow, but we found with the race cars it was the only way to guarantee a complete bleed (apparently drivers don't appreciate coming to the 1st corner and finding no brakes, go figure)




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Try gravity bleeding, open the nipple place a catch container under, make sure master cylinder is full and go and make a cup of coffee or tea. Check the master cylinder fluid level and top up once per wheel. Make a cup between each wheel and remember to go when needed.



Sure it's slow, but we found with the race cars it was the only way to guarantee a complete bleed

I second this Method, Sure It's time consuming But, It works..
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Old 04-02-2023, 09:45 PM   #12
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Vacuum bleeders work well in dealer situations where time is critical to do multiple operations. Pumping fluid via the pedal is the best. although requiring more people to accomplish.
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Old 05-02-2023, 08:42 PM   #13
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I wonder if it has something to do with the ABS system
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Old 06-02-2023, 06:10 AM   #14
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ABS is electronic not hydraulic

ABS is an over-ride system and only works when your foot is firmly planted on the brake pedal with the car running
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ABS is electronic not hydraulic

ABS is an over-ride system and only works when your foot is firmly planted on the brake pedal with the car running
ABS is both electronic and hydraulic.
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:58 PM   #16
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ABS is both electronic and hydraulic.
electronic activates hydraulic, they are not interchangeable, I can back it in your car doesn't have electric brakes
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