Territory Struts into RTV

[TheBlueBa06]

Just curious how it works and what needs to be done to make them fit comfortably. I've seen plenty of RTV's that say they have territory front struts and custom rear leaves to lift them an extra x amount and they look great but I don't know if the front struts just drop straight it or not and if they do, is the suspension geometry still close enough to the RTV struts that its not gonna completely destroy the bushes and ball joints in half the amount of time it should.

[XR Martin]

If you want more height, put bigger wheels on it.
E-series 16s, 235/70 tyres will give you 30mm extra.

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by TheBlueBa06

is the suspension geometry still close enough to the RTV struts that its not gonna completely destroy the bushes and ball joints in half the amount of time it should.

struts arent going to change ANY of the front end geometry, its no different to the people hell bent on using strut spacers or longer springs, its still pushing the angular movement of the ball joints past their working limit, especially under full suspension droop.

[TheBlueBa06]

Well yes they aren't going to "change" the geometry but if with the struts fitted, it would be forcing the ball joints past its working range half the time then they would be forcing the rest of the suspension components past where they want to be and it would all get worn out and stuffed too quickly, no?. That's why I asked because I assumed the strut would be too long for it to fit properly but I've seen people say they have them fitted and I'm curious on how to do it properly without destroying the front end.

[Interceptor]

..... why use a territory front strut? The correct struts are readily available for B series RTV's, and will push the suspension to what is, unfortunately, past the angular limit of the stock ball joints, any further than stock RTV ride height is compromising the lifespan of the ball joints.
I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to achieve by using a strut thats designed for a different vehicle.

[Raptor]

I don't believe anyone has fitted them and not ruined the car, they are way too long.

Territory at top of pic, Falcon below. RTV is somewhere in between.

[TheBlueBa06]

Yeah, right fair enough. I'm a young bloke and I'm just going off the stuff I've read, that why I figured I'd ask the question. And to answer why I would want to fit a strut from a different car. For the lift, I do a lot of driving in places Falcons don't exactly belong and its cheaper to buy some struts and tyres than to buy a 4wd.

[XR Martin]

An RTV with bigger wheels has near 4" more ground clearance than a Prado or Hilux.
My RTV wagon has about 330mm to the front crossmember. Sway bar hangs a bit low, but if you're real worried on the rough stuff undo the links and swing it out of the way.
Not sure how a Territory has a longer strut when it has less clearance than an RTV anyway.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

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Not sure how a Territory has a longer strut when it has less clearance than an RTV anyway.

The Territory strut is so long because the Territory stub axle (knuckle) extends way below the centre of the wheel. Meaning the lower suspension arm and front crossmember are much lower than in the Falcon. That's why Territory have less ground clearance than an RTV, AWD's Territory's (pictured) have a driveshaft where the Falcon/RTV lower suspension arm is.