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04-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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Spr Jenkins
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I was talking to the FPV guys at the motorshow yesterday about how dissapointing the 40th aniversary model is. He said that the reason for this was that HSV owns all their cars, they buy them outright off Holden and can then do what they want and go as wild as they want.
However all FPV's are apparently still owned by Ford. FPV is then severly limited in what it can do with these vehicles. While they apparently could and would love to make some real fast and wild vehicles e.g: supercharge the V8's, Ford Australia has the final say. So there you go, I thought this was very interesting and am wondering what you guys think? |
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04-03-2007, 02:33 PM
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Dont think these guys will be working at the Motor show next year. lol.
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04-03-2007, 02:40 PM
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Who were these guys ?
Co-op students ? |
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04-03-2007, 02:45 PM
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Now XR8TickfordBoy
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How is Holden going to own FPV's models??? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!!!
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04-03-2007, 02:48 PM
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read it again.
they are saying hsv owns the holdens they then customize. fpv doesnt own the fords they customize |
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04-03-2007, 02:49 PM
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04-03-2007, 03:23 PM
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04-03-2007, 03:27 PM
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Nope, read his words..... not what he 'means'. |
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04-03-2007, 04:03 PM
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Barraxr8, you are the one that has mis read what he said. Says HSV own their Holdens. FPV dont own their Fords
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04-03-2007, 06:06 PM
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Sorry.....
I meant that XR6TickfordBoy's post was way off....... Last edited by Fordman1; 04-03-2007 at 06:29 PM. |
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04-03-2007, 10:00 PM
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Workin' for the BOSS
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As best as I can tell from all reports any HSV has always owned any FPV!!
( Thats a joke O.K. don't start dribbling down your bib about how wrong I am FFS ).
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04-03-2007, 10:06 PM
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And you all seriously beleive that Holden will let HSV do anything they want with their cars? For starters they are sold through the holden dealers, 2, they have the Holden badge on them.... and many other reasons they have TOTAL control. Who were these jokers working on the stand? Wont be there for much longer.
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04-03-2007, 10:11 PM
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I dont know about anyone else, but I find the VE HSV range to be a bit of a let down. The cars just dont look as good as years gone by.
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04-03-2007, 10:14 PM
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Remember what happened to Brocky when he tried selling his Holden's....
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05-03-2007, 12:12 AM
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HSVs dont have Holden badges, they have only the HSV badges, whereas FPV cars still have the blue oval in the grille and on the boot garnish.
In terms of looks, I reckon the VX HSVs were the nicest ones. |
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05-03-2007, 10:49 AM
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05-03-2007, 11:35 AM
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Looks are one thing, but the VE has much better ride and handling
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05-03-2007, 11:49 AM
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This is very accurate to what I have heard from a guy I know who is high up in the HSV world. He said HSV would always have different cars to FPV because FPV are more controlled by Ford then HSV are controlled by Holden. That was a few years ago though so things may have changed since then. |
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05-03-2007, 11:49 AM
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Much better? yeah right.... Even if it were slightly better (not much better) remember its next years FPVs that will be the true competitor to VE...Then we will see how good VE is |
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05-03-2007, 12:35 PM
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Ummm you obviously have owned the VX so you can make a judgement about it compared to the VE? What does FPV have to do with it? |
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05-03-2007, 12:47 PM
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I think the VE looks much more modern and in fact it is starting to make the Falcons look a little dated in my opinion. As in it is starting to make the Falcons look a little bit old school.
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05-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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05-03-2007, 01:21 PM
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Prodrive own 51% of FPV don't they? So they should be able to go hell for leather and produce what they want as they have the majority share...
...unless contractually Ford get final say; or Ford actually own the "Names" (badgeplates) of GT, Pursuit, Typhoon, etc... Meaning that FPV can't produce these models without Ford's OK.
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05-03-2007, 01:22 PM
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Maybe that's what makes the VE give you either a love-it-or-hate-it feeling at first sight.
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05-03-2007, 01:54 PM
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05-03-2007, 02:20 PM
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Whats wrong with an ED? There a good looking car.
Anyway back to the topic, why dont FPV buy the cars off Ford outright? Whats stopping them?
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05-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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This thread is ridiculous. :lookedat:
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05-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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i reckon that they are goin to have to do somthing special with the next falcon so they dont keep getting walked all over
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05-03-2007, 03:31 PM
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FPV vs HSV
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